No-truss rod neck construction

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  1. Mike Simpson

    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity

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    I have made a couple of necks with a piece of 1/4" square steel tubing epoxied in instead of a truss rod. They have been stable for many years.
     
  2. magicfingers99

    magicfingers99 Friend of Leo's

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    I beleive it was post war to late 1950's, but Framus was great about mixing and matching whatever was about, so you can sometimes see the truss rod less necks later. I think the original Bill Lorento Hollywood guitar was truss rod less, its one way to tell the later 21st century copies from the mid 20th century originals

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    beautiful guitar

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    no fret rod on the original

    these are circa 1958
     
  3. Freeman Keller

    Freeman Keller Friend of Leo's

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    I have built one classical guitar with a Spanish cedar neck with no truss rod. The relief was planed into the neck before the rosewood fretboard was glued on. The guitar is 11 years old and still has the same relief as when I built it. Its important to note that a classical and an electric have roughly the same tension - 100+ pounds - a 24 inch scale may have less depending on how you string it.

    I'll just add that every other neck I have built since the classical has had an adjustable double acting truss rod - I just see no valid reason not to.
     
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  4. epizootics

    epizootics Tele-Meister

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    I have an old Framus BL-10 from the late 60's that has that neck construction - it actually looks quite nice in the flesh. Mine still has a truss rod, though. It also has a mahogany veneer on the top with the grain running perpendicular to the strings, which is a bit disturbing.

    Thanks! I'll give them a shout.



    I am also in the process of building a short scale bass that will use the same fret wire, with a wenge FB over a padauk neck:

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    This one has a two-way truss rod, so I'll use it to get a general idea of what to expect with this particular slot width in conjunction with the fret tangs.
     
  5. solfege

    solfege TDPRI Member

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    I have a c. '39 Getsch archtop acoustic without a truss rod. I've had it for more than 20 years and it's been quite stable.

    Cool project.
     
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    ppg677 Tele-Meister

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    Ipe wood is incredibly dense and stuff.
     
  7. epizootics

    epizootics Tele-Meister

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    Yes indeed! It is fairly easy to find in Europe too, but I don't have any in stock at the minute.
    I realized I still had some reclaimed massaranduba / bulletwood leftovers, hard stuff that's on par with ipe in terms of toughness, but sanding it instantly makes me feel like I have been in a protest and gassed by the police. Nasty, nasty stuff. I used that for my two-string fretless baritone thingie, I'll use it again if I have a workshop that's separate from my flat, but for now there's no way I'm putting my wife (and cat) through it. :)

    Fancy meeting you here! Looks like that pine Tele is nearly done?


    It has been a few days and the neck didn't move any further. I fretted the bass neck this week and it did induce a bit of a backbow, it gives me a rough idea of how much I should remove from the trussless neck before gluing the fretboard on. More soon...
     
  8. mojavedesert

    mojavedesert TDPRI Member

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    I'm curious how your neck turns out. Following. I'm planning on building a no truss rod neck. I have an old Harmony Stratotone with no truss rod and it's just so fun to play. I really want a telecaster that feels that light and lively. In my mind it will be my dream guitar, I won't want any other after that.
     
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  9. crazydave911

    crazydave911 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Just a suggestion,build the Tele as a neck-thru like the Stratotone for the full effect :)

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    I did :D

    Dave
     
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  10. solfege

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    Nearly. Just waiting on a new bridge pickup. Been playing with just the neck in and it sounds glorious.
     
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  11. mojavedesert

    mojavedesert TDPRI Member

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    I am curious about your guitar too. I would love to know more about it, does it have a trussrod? It looks like pine, how is that working? Is your build documented for me to follow?
     
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  12. crazydave911

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    A trussrod no,but my usual 1/4" cold rolled steel reinforcing bar (McMaster & Carr).The center piece of wood is very close to quartersawn pine,southern yellow pine.So hard carpenters have to drill for the nail holes.Not my first pine neck rodeo lol.It is documented in two threads,the distant beginnings in my "Dear diary,what a build it's been".The follow up and remodel in my current thread,"Sneaky Snake-A Memoriam.PM any questions/concerns you may have :D
     
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