No... I DO NOT want to add a tip!

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yeah, the dudes who don't want to tip in this thread... wait till you hear how they feel about your tax rate! ha ha! oh man!
Well… depends of their reason for not doing so.

edit. and to be true, not so happy with this: ”state taking 40% of my salary as Taxes”
 
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The answer to this is too easy, and you should be able to figure it out yourself. The MINIMUM wage for servers at any restaurant should be the same as it is for any other job (much higher than the current legal minimum wage, in my opinion). If the wait staff at LaChiChi must be more skilled than the wait staff at TGIFriday's or Applebee's, then La ChiChi should pay their wait staff far more than Applebee's does. They should pay what is required to get the quality of employee that they need. If tipping is eliminated it does not mean that anyone is going to get "a gigantic pay cut," but it is possible that some servers (most likely those at La ChiChi) will no longer be ridiculously overpaid.

And seriously, which servers do you honestly believe put up with the most crap? Having known and/or dated numerous servers in both high end and fast casual establishments, I think I can safely say that it's the ones at Applebees and TGIFriday's, not at "La ChiChi."


We would do backflips, full wine service multiple times a table, dessert trays, special orders - usually for the wealthy, not the rich .

We worked our asses off, took crap and made good dough.

As good as the money was - I paid my way through college - I’d never debase myself that way again. That stuff is 35 yrs in the rear view.

Applebees schlep food to tables. Those servers would raise hell at the way we lapdogged it most nights.

Eliminate tipping in NYC restaurants then I’ll believe it.

Only concerned with waitstaff deal in US - not other countries and I don’t tip when you don’t do anything . If you’re dumb enough to work in a Starbucks it’s your own fault .
 

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Only concerned with waitstaff deal in US - not other countries and I don’t tip when you don’t do anything . If you’re dumb enough to work in a Starbucks it’s your own fault .
Unfortunately for you and your outdated chauvinism, the US doesn't exist in its own little bubble.
 

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Holy crap! This is getting more ridiculous every day.

First let me state, I am NOT El Cheapo when it comes to tipping, my wife and I both spent time in the Restaurant business, and if anything, we tend to over-tip... especially for great service.

Everywhere I go now, has a box to tick, when you finish your ATM transaction.. Would you like to leave a tip?
For a Sub sandwich? No.. not so much.

My meltdown point for this nonsense, just peaked this morning.

I was ordering some custom fit T-shirts online.. Get to the checkout:

How much gratuity would you like to add? 5% 10% 20% OTHER


Uhh... none, GTFO.... order canceled.

Here in LA, many carryout places add 1 or 2% to the bill to cover their employees health benefits. Most of the time, they do not tell you about it, but its buried in small print on the receipt. My most recent ex girlfriend used to freak out about it whenever it happened to her and she would demand it be taken off the bill. I agreed with her, however she was a high maintanence girl too and everything was a problem for her.
 

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...And tipping for take-out is ludicrous...
I always felt this way until the "time of great hardship" when it became a struggle for many restaurants to stay open. Didn't want my to see my local favorites (and not-so-favorites, for that matter) close their doors for good.
Lately it seems that the habit will remain when I'm picking up at non-fast food joints.
 

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I thought the OP was from SoCal ?

It’s incredulous to folks in other countries that tipping exists at all anywhere.

I get that.

But why would you have a problem about something that exist in America and in one very small defined area of service that I was talking about which was fine dining staff ?

Tip/don’t tip.

Because something doesn’t exist in your country doesn’t mean it’s wrong somewhere else obviously.

Last time I checked, there were still places where people put their name down for the privilege of spending tons of money on a series of small plates a month or two ahead of time.
 

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That check box is there to protect the consumer from an unscrupulous employee adding a tip that was not intended. Others may even alter the tip amount post transaction. Checking the box for no tip means he line item for a tip should be a zero amount. A lot can happen from signing the receipt to final payment & reconciliation as a process involving several hands.
 

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Here's a tip. Never send food back and complain about it, unless your leaving without eating anything more from that establishment. That a good tip.
 

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We would do backflips, full wine service multiple times a table, dessert trays, special orders - usually for the wealthy, not the rich .

We worked our asses off, took crap and made good dough.

As good as the money was - I paid my way through college - I’d never debase myself that way again. That stuff is 35 yrs in the rear view.

Applebees schlep food to tables. Those servers would raise hell at the way we lapdogged it most nights.

Eliminate tipping in NYC restaurants then I’ll believe it.

Only concerned with waitstaff deal in US - not other countries and I don’t tip when you don’t do anything . If you’re dumb enough to work in a Starbucks it’s your own fault .
And servers at Applebees and TGIFridays probably wait on two or three times as many tables as you did at one time. Juggling service for multiple tables is a lot of work. And they sometimes deal with a class of customer that may not know or care about polite customs for dining in public, or about paying for their meal when the check is delivered.
 

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And servers at Applebees and TGIFridays probably wait on two or three times as many tables as you did at one time. Juggling service for multiple tables is a lot of work. And they sometimes deal with a class of customer that may not know or care about polite customs for dining in public, or about paying for their meal when the check is delivered.

But, the paradigm had been established.

I didn’t set it up. I just observed it and used it to my advantage.

Meaning : people tip as a percentage of the check total.

So if you wanted to make the most money as a server ?

Go where the check averages are higher.

So that’s what I did.

Why go someplace where you have to turn 1X to 2X as many tables to make the same amount ?

That’s for the people whose parents were helping them with college.

I didn’t have that luxury, so I had to be like a bank robber and “go where the money is”

It’s the same reason I worked a bunch of crappy construction jobs because it wasn’t retail at $3.35 it was 15 or 16 bucks an hour.
 

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The bizarre tradition of tipping is a relic of the Jim Crow era. Business owners rely on it to augment their income.

Just as Wal Mart relies on tax payer funded public assistance to augment their income.

It really is an embarrasing part of our society. Sadly, there are too many folks who seem to be brainwashed into thinking that this is the only way.
Obviously, they're incorrect.

Most of the rest of the world doesn't participate in this nonsense.

Of course it was the Tudors.
 

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Traveling across country, I was sort of shocked by how much sandwiches at Firehouse now cost. Yes, I recognize that the employees deserve proper pay and I just have to assume, at these new prices, that their wages have at least doubled. Which is right, but which also cancels out the need for locked in tipping. So, if the sandwich is superb or somewhere else the pizza is superb, I tip after the meal is over, in cash.

The way I see it, it is redundant to both raise prices and then pretend as to tipping, that nothing has changed. Having said that, I encountered a lot of surly, very temporary employees in come of these communities with no identity. Places like Casa Grande, Arizona. You know these places. The home of quiet quitting, or quitting right before our eyes in one case.
 

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Traveling across country, I was sort of shocked by how much sandwiches at Firehouse now cost. Yes, I recognize that the employees deserve proper pay and I just have to assume, at these new prices, that their wages have at least doubled. Which is right, but which also cancels out the need for locked in tipping. So, if the sandwich is superb or somewhere else the pizza is superb, I tip after the meal is over, in cash.

The way I see it, it is redundant to both raise prices and then pretend as to tipping, that nothing has changed. Having said that, I encountered a lot of surly, very temporary employees in come of these communities with no identity. Places like Casa Grande, Arizona. You know these places. The home of quiet quitting, or quitting right before our eyes in one case.
Casa Grande, a dirt hole in the desert. I always hated going there and was always glad to leave.
 

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LOL... this component took longer to come up than I expected.

I'm at a "in between point" of my middle life body... I'm 6 feet tall, still lift weights 5 days a week, so I still have fairly broad shoulders, and a chest somewhere between "pecs" and man-boobs... But my flat stomach left me, when I lost the stomach to ride my bike years ago... out of fear of being smashed by a texting/driving idiot, and I'll never not eat Italian and Mexican food.

So a large fits me great, until I lift my arms and my belly shows itself.

An XL T-shirt looks like a moo-moo on me.

So these were custom fitted...


I found another place that offered the same thing, without begging for a tip... So I'll update how that works for me.. :lol:
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As promised.....


They fit perfect in the arms and chest area, and forgiving with the gut.

I am in no way affiliated with them lol.
 
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No table service, no tip. Keeps things simple.

They don't ask for tips at McDonalds, or Home Depot, or Guitar Stores, or Department stores.

And tipping for take-out is ludicrous.
I have gotten take out from a few places I normally go for sit down meals. Yes, I will tip but not as much as for eating in the restaurant. I have worked in restaurants also.
 

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I, for one, would like to notify everyone that I will now be accepting tips for making TDPRI posts. PM to send the cash.
I'm happy to offer tips:
1) Don't make posts too wordy
2) Insert line breaks to make reading easier
3) Try to avoid too many grammatical or spelling errors
4) Ego should be restrained. Humour and irony should be promoted

P.S. Your post was successful on all points. Congratulations.

Edit: 'I' is already singular, so 'I, for one' seems redundant
 
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No wait person, no tip. I got stuck at a pizza place the other day. The receipt offered no escape without signing for a tip, they already had my card. The pizza place was one of those places where you get the pizza, then take it home and cook it in YOUR own oven. I'm looking all over for an exit on the machine, because I don't want to tip them. Finally, the guy sees, that I'm not going to hit okay, and does something and the receipt comes through without at tip. I watched them very carefully when they were putting my pizza together, I did not want the rat's tail they were saving for a guy like me.

I do tip when we go to a place where we are waited on, most times generously, I don't tip otherwise. For Pete's sake, the guys at the recycling center have a tip box now. You do ALL the work there, and they want a tip? They holler at you if you happen to put the bottles in the BLUE can, then want a tip? Sheesh.
A person put your pizza together and wrapped it for you to take home. Hmmm….
 

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They can ask all they want, doesn't mean I will. I would love to see my mechanic put his hand out for a tip after raping me on a set of shocks.

I am old fashioned, I tip some professions (wait staff, barber, cabbie, etc.) generously, but I do not apply that standard to very many professions.

I remember my first trip to NYC and the doorman at my hotel grabbing the door seconds before I did...then putting his hand out for a tip. I am from the sticks, not only can I open my own door, but we call it being polite if you want to open a door for somebody else. Neither situation requires a monetary incentive.

Having lived in NYC for a number of years back in the '80's and '90's, I can tell you, everyone has their hand out for a tip. I remember I paid about $400 a month to park my car. On top of that I tipped the garage manager $50 a month to keep my car on the main floor so when they were busy I could walk in, get in my car with my spare key and drive away without having to wait upwards of 20 minute for them to fish my car out of a spot three or four floors up.

I had doormen and a concierge plus the super to take care of whenever they did ANYTHING for me. Tipping is just the way it was and is in a place like NYC. You want anything done for you, it's going to cost. If you're known as a cheapskate, you'll never get stuff that you need, done.

Don't even get me started about doing shows at the Javits Center. You had to go with a wad of money to grease the wheel otherwise it would take forever to get your truck unloaded, booth set up, electricity supplied, the list goes on. It's just the way things get done in a big city.
 
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