NND + Question about fretboard grain

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Very excitedly picked up a new Musikraft neck for a '68 tele-inspired build. My first order from the company. Need to say the purchasing experience was excellent. Got some great info over the phone from Scott before ordering, and the neck was made, shipped, and at my mailbox within 4 weeks of ordering. No complaints about the quality of craftsmanship. To be clear, this isn’t a “complaint” thread/post. I don’t like how the fretboard looks, but I’m really more curious as whether it’s actually unusual, which it seems to me. Thought I'd share pics & hear peoples' thoughts on maple fretboard grain!

After unboxing, my eye was immediately drawn to the grain across the fretboard, especially the island of dark grain around frets 1-2. I have grain patterns on my other fretboards and don’t mind them, but this ‘birth mark’ of darker wood especially just bugs me. I know this is totally aesthetic (I’m not worried about warping, tone, etc.), and I’m probably nitpicking because I just spent a bunch of money on a custom neck that doesn’t look like the picture that was in my mind. However, I can’t recall ever seeing a standard flat-cut board this distinctly… patchy? I’m wondering if that’s because this would typically be graded down by manufacturers based on appearance. Is this more common than I realize? My question isn’t about whether I should be upset (that’s based on my tastes) but whether I’m wrong to be surprised, and if in fact this is pretty normal. Any other grainy boards out there?

To be clear, I realize that timber is unique, maples vary, and every cut is different. Luck of the draw. One person's 'character' is another's eye sore. It has lots of character all over—the shaft is also an interesting cut with noticeable flaming on the treble side only. I suppose what I’m realizing is that my eye isn’t drawn to this kind of asymmetrical character, lol.

NND is still a happy day, and it feels great (though heavier than I was expecting). 2-piece, rock maple with slab maple cap, SS frets, compound 7.25-9.5 radius, V-C (88-95) profile. The full but not-too-chunky V-C is really nice. Everything’s made to spec and feels great in hand. The frets are quite level, but the ends need dressing—as expected. Overall, it’s a lovely piece of wood to hold, and I’m sure will be to play after finishing.

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El Tele Lobo

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Can't speak to how unusual it is, but I think it looks awesome. That "birthmark" especially gives it very unique character. Of course, you may not WANT character. But, I dig it. And I would keep it.

Did you call them about a return/exchange? Or is it a fully custom neck and not eligible for return?
 

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Did you call them about a return/exchange? Or is it a fully custom neck and not eligible for return?
No, I haven't, and not sure that I would/will really. It's a custom neck and I'm fairly certain this wouldn't fall within the kind of flaws/manufacturer errors eligible for exchange. I don't think it's actually a flaw -- or if it is it's only cosmetic and open to interpretation. I guess that's something I was hoping to get a better gauge on by checking in with folks here, simply because I haven't seen such distinct markings on other fretboards, so I'm wondering if that's because it would typically be considered a cosmetic flaw. From the responses looks like lots of people would really like receiving what I'm disliking!

Quartersawn just looks well... quartersawn and all about the same.
Indeed. Apparently when it comes to fretboards I'm into that look. There was an option (with upcharge) for quarter-sawn slab that in retrospect I should have taken, if I'd known this much grain was a possibility.

Thanks folks for all your thoughts so far, folks!
 

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Very excitedly picked up a new Musikraft neck for a '68 tele-inspired build. My first order from the company. Need to say the purchasing experience was excellent. Got some great info over the phone from Scott before ordering, and the neck was made, shipped, and at my mailbox within 4 weeks of ordering. No complaints about the quality of craftsmanship. To be clear, this isn’t a “complaint” thread/post. I don’t like how the fretboard looks, but I’m really more curious as whether it’s actually unusual, which it seems to me. Thought I'd share pics & hear peoples' thoughts on maple fretboard grain!

After unboxing, my eye was immediately drawn to the grain across the fretboard, especially the island of dark grain around frets 1-2. I have grain patterns on my other fretboards and don’t mind them, but this ‘birth mark’ of darker wood especially just bugs me. I know this is totally aesthetic (I’m not worried about warping, tone, etc.), and I’m probably nitpicking because I just spent a bunch of money on a custom neck that doesn’t look like the picture that was in my mind. However, I can’t recall ever seeing a standard flat-cut board this distinctly… patchy? I’m wondering if that’s because this would typically be graded down by manufacturers based on appearance. Is this more common than I realize? My question isn’t about whether I should be upset (that’s based on my tastes) but whether I’m wrong to be surprised, and if in fact this is pretty normal. Any other grainy boards out there?

To be clear, I realize that timber is unique, maples vary, and every cut is different. Luck of the draw. One person's 'character' is another's eye sore. It has lots of character all over—the shaft is also an interesting cut with noticeable flaming on the treble side only. I suppose what I’m realizing is that my eye isn’t drawn to this kind of asymmetrical character, lol.

NND is still a happy day, and it feels great (though heavier than I was expecting). 2-piece, rock maple with slab maple cap, SS frets, compound 7.25-9.5 radius, V-C (88-95) profile. The full but not-too-chunky V-C is really nice. Everything’s made to spec and feels great in hand. The frets are quite level, but the ends need dressing—as expected. Overall, it’s a lovely piece of wood to hold, and I’m sure will be to play after finishing.

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I think they call that a mineral spot. I see you have a slab fingerboard that guitar too. I don't think it would bother me, but in honesty, I bought a neck from Tommy at USCG back in the day and he considered the neck he sold me (at a slight discount) a second because of mineral spots, though they were a bit more severe than that one. I also have to say that once I put some amber lacquer on it and played it for a couple years, I quit seeing them??

I don't think I'd go through the pain of shipping that neck back to the states from BC and paying the shipping just to get a fingerboard without that.

If you are into making a late sixty' clone, you are going to want to put some amber on it. and the strings are going to cover it up too.
 

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just curious, why did you get a slab board instead of a veneer?
Cost, primarily! $40 extra for veneer. It's a '68-inspired build, by by no means intended to be vintage correct in every detail. (The year 68 is part of an homage to my dad that's too much to get into here, lol). I wanted a two-piece maple cap neck drilled for F-tuners and this got me close enough. Also has a dual-adjust trussrod, medium SS frets, etc.
 

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I don't think I'd go through the pain of shipping that neck back to the states from BC and paying the shipping just to get a fingerboard without that.
Yeah, I'm not really entertaining that idea either! I do all my shipping to/from the states from the Washington side (perks of living on the border!), but even at that it's not worth it.

The mineral spots thing is interesting, and I'll need to learn more about that. It looks like grain to me, but I'm no expert. I think what you mention about your USCG neck being graded a factory second is where my mind was going by making the thread. I'm wondering if I don't see fingerboards like this often because they're considered undesirable cuts. Lots of people seem to like it, and I'm sure I'll stop seeing it as you mention. And you're right about the lacquer and strings. The Aged Clear Oxford nitro I use gives a really nice transparent tint that is not overly orange/yellow, but it does mute the differences generally.
 

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Cost, primarily! $40 extra for veneer. It's a '68-inspired build, by by no means intended to be vintage correct in every detail. (The year 68 is part of an homage to my dad that's too much to get into here, lol). I wanted a two-piece maple cap neck drilled for F-tuners and this got me close enough. Also has a dual-adjust trussrod, medium SS frets, etc.
I have a neck, Musikraft as well, it's maple cap veneer, flatsawn, F-tuners, single action trusrod, I don't remember the fret-size (not vintage small that's for sure) and a 12'' radius. I need to get going on it. I'm excited to see yours, and to actually assemble and play mine :)

Post pictures!
 

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Some pictures of the three musikraft necks I haven’t used yet. Just to compare
 

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I’ll risk being negative guy: I don’t care for it. Purely an aesthetic preference but I am a fan of quartersawn necks. I agree that there’s probably no structural reason for the OP’s concern.
 

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It would bother me. Perhaps if they knocked $100 off the price, it wouldn't bother me so much. Otherwise, I would be inclined to return it.

If you will notice, people here are split. Any potential buyers in the future will also be split.
 




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