Nice Sounding OD at Low Volume

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  1. Jbnaxx

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    I found some nice house friendly sounds with this pedal setup.....

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    I use this into a Quilter SuperBlock US. The Tech 21 Leeds voicing matches up to the Quilter surprisingly well and provides great volume control without losing the dirt. The Archer Icon does well in front of the Leeds. I have used the Leeds many times direct but never really put it in front of the amp. This one has the speaker sim button.
     
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    +1 Archer. I have a 5F1 with a basic attenuator that was okay but still lacking at low volume. Been researching clon clones forever and recently got a Jeff Archer (SW exclusive) and put that between my guitar and the attenuated amp and I couldn't be happier.
     
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    I like the Archer. Nice setup.
     
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    The Archer Icon has a hidden benefit. it has a really nice sweetness to it with the gain turned all the way down.... sort of like an EP preamp thing.
     
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    Ikon is my jam EBFB18E5-A9E9-4507-A669-38DB4C04CA9F.jpeg
     
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    I really like your rack effects! (nice MacGyver pedalboard ;))
     
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    It’s interesting (and expensive) the way some pedals sound better at home and others sound better live.

    I actually have a live pedalboard and a home studio pedalboard.

    I’m looking forward to the day when a single modeling unit can cover both. I don’t think we’re quite there yet.
     
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    I play a fair bit of low volume at home these days. For me the key is using a lot less gain, I mess around with a bunch of different dirt pedals.

    A scant touch of delay can help too, and not having your amp speakers on the floor ( just try to be more in the speaker dispersion pattern) is really helpful.
     
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    my world is shook -- you put the dirt pedal last? that never would have occurred to me. my own fairly similar board is tuner>comp>dirt>verb/trem>echo. why dirt last?
     
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    I’d put dirt first myself, but maybe that’s just the way he likes it. No right or wrong.

    Trem in front of dirt? Maybe. But, reverb and echo? Always after, for me.
     
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    I don’t use Trem/Delay/Verb with the OD, and I only use OD as over the top boost/drive.

    Question- when effects are before amp are they not before the drive?
     
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    Depends on whether the amp is clean or dirty.

    Many effects, including reverb and delay, sound better after dirt. That's why we have effects loops on some amps. ;)
     
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    These amps don’t have effect loop. But they have very pleasing OD.
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    Nice! Hey, Eddie Van Halen put delay in front of a dirty amp and sounded great. An effects loop is not always necessary.
     
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    I went from trying to use no pedals to 6…….That’s my limit…… really.

    When I got to 6 pedals and a power supply, I had to do something to get it under control. So yeah, it’s a piece of shelf material with some slanted wood sides……it even has rubber feet to keep it from sliding around.

    6 is my limit……really.
     
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    OK, got it. If the OD isn't a bedrock sound but an effect that you add, then this makes total sense. I run my amp cleanish and get a lot of my sound from a cranked compressor so I want to balance trem, verb, echo with the compressed sound. but either the comp or the OD is always on.
     
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    I’ve been on the search for over 20 years, and this is what I’ve ended up with:

     
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    That's pretty much my experiences, too.

    Or at least there's just a whole range of drive boxes in particular that IDK how most folks get to work on a gig. I insist on the simple/intuitive stuff for using outside of the house - it's got to sound good w/minimal tweaks before the playing starts.

    OTOH, I really like using a tweaked scratchbuild of an Ibanez MT10, or my tweaked Drivemaster, but just primarily at home. The funny thing is I end up setting the T/M/B controls in a way that either one sounds very similar to a singular tone control on the other boxes that are staples on my gigging boards.
     
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    There was once a time when amps didn't come with effects loops and the amp was the dirt. The echoplex or memory man came before the amp as did any phase, flange, chorus, etc... etc... Iconic players created iconic tones that way and despite what the internet says... it still works ;)
     
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