NGD - Grote Jazz Guitar

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  1. Obsessed

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    Generally speaking, I think you are correct, but the Grote Jazz is somewhat unique in the under $200 field and not just another LP/tele copy. Especially considering the archtop hollwbody along with the floating bridge. For $169 new and free shipping ... it blows me away.
     
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    I agree. Great price and it looks like a very nice guitar indeed :))

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    I imagine the Epi Century has a nicer pickup, but I honestly think the Grote looks better. I much prefer the black pickguard and I really like the pearloid inlays on the fretboard. My brother has an Epi Century. I'll be curious to get his comparison thoughts when he's in for the holidays.
     
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    I had an Epi century, but haven't played a Grote. Sold the century since I have a casino. Felt like the casino can do more, so I kept it.
     
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    It would be very interesting to play a Century again. I must confess that the best P-90 I have ever played was on the Epi Century, but my experience with P-90s have only been in stores. The Century's "faded" surface did not look very good to me (I've played three of them). Not a deal breaker, but for the price ... ? Anyway, the Grote looks way better IMO. I can easily replace the P-90 and since the whole reason for buying the Grote is to explore P-90 stuff, I can easily justify the cost of trying out different pickups.
     
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    I finally got to play the new Grote tonight, I am fairly impressed! I dig the tone (I'm guessing they're 11's on here, at least as close as my calipers would tell me) and this pickup is marvelous! Clean and clear, or a ton of snarl with overdrive, I ain't touching it though the little pots may go. Did I ever mention P-90s are my favorite pickups, and this one sounds every bit as good as any of the boutique or Gibson pickups that I have.

    My only gripe is I can't get the treble action below 5/64, while the bass side is at 4/64 all the way down. I can't see a warp and there's no fret buzz (!) but I don't have a tune-o-matic that's a little shorter. Intonation is fine, so I'll have my luthier take a look, and while he's at it put on a bone nut. This guitar deserves one!
     
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    Yeah,
    Thats why I had 3/64s milled off of the bottom of my bridge where it sits on the adjustment wheels.

    This enabled me to lower my string height. I also made sure that my frets were seated and level from the 12th fret up.

    Mine plays great after the tweaks I did to it.
    I had to replace the plug in jack last weekend.
     
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    Excellent. Good to know about your experience with P-90s. At least now I know I have a descent one to experiment with. Mine seems to respond very well to everything I throw at it. Once I moved the bridge up, I was able to get the action down to 4/64ths across the strings with plenty of adjustment left. I do believe it has to do with the angle wedge under the fretboard that could easily change the amount of action available. You can see on Loar's LH301T how they added a piece in for the final angle. BTW, I agree, this guitar earns a bone nut.
     
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    Dropped off my Grote with my luthier last night for a new bone nut. When I told him how much I paid he was surprised as he said overall it's a nice guitar.
    Should have it back this weekend if the weather cooperates and I get my son back to school on Sunday rather than having to travel Saturday because of the weather.

    Mrs Z said "I guess that's going to be your Christmas present" :D
     
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    Looks really nice. Congratulations. Still loving my LP JR Grote.
     
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    Nice. The one thing I have never done on my MIK Epi Sheraton II, is to get a bone nut for it, so I will be very interested to hear what you think when you get the Grote back.
     
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    Picking up the Grote from my luthier on the way home today, can't wait to play it. Especially after he told me that it plays better than a new 335 he set up at the same time :D
    She might be getting a snazzy pickup for Christmas, sort of leaning towards a Lollar 50's wind. Hmmmm...

    Got it home, it really does play nice!
     
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  13. FenderGyrl

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    Broke the Volume Pot on mine yesterday.
    The Tone Pot started failing also.

    Intended to replace them anywho, just been playin the chit outta mine. Already had the parts set aside for the rewire.

    Got a new chrome jack plate yesterday.
    Gutted the Grote today...
    :twisted:
     
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    Waiting on a pickup for mine, pots, cap and jack waiting and ready to go. I haven't wanted to play any other guitar for the moment, this thing sounds way better than it should.
     
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    Still waiting on strings before I sand down the bridge saddle to conform with the arch better. Still playing the snot out of it even with the crappy strings. Loving the whole package and totally enjoying the P-90. Seems like I better do the whole Switchcraft jack and new pots sooner than later. Looks like way large F-holes compared to my Sheraton, so probably go CTS this go around. Do I dare tune up to open A with the cheap strings?:lol:
     
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    The harmonics that come out of this guitar are sweet. I figured it would sound similar to my Casino, which has a nice hollow body tone, but the Grote sounds better acoustically. I put low wind pickups in the Casino too since the stock ones are too dang hot.

    I was going to put 11's on it, but I prefer 10s on a 24.75" scale. I bet it will be even more harmonically alive with heavier strings, but the 10's play fine, and these are EB Rock n Roll pure nickel. I usually use Pyramid or Mangan round core, next string change it will get Pyramids.
     
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    Well the 1/4" jack went belly up tonight on the Grote Jazz. I just got my strings, so I decided to tune up to open A with the old strings, but sure enough, as soon as I plugged it in, I could tell something happened and now nothing. Yup, Amazon Prime just as Mrs. Obsessed was placing a Xmas order. Oh well, at least I have not put the new strings on and besides, I ordered a wound G, but it has not arrived yet.
     
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    Wow!
    Fantastic value. I actually like it more than my Epiphone Century.
    Is this possible??? Yes, it is!
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    Does it look like the same body manufacturer?
     
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    I do not know.
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