NGD - FCS Tele with Parsons-White B & G StringBender

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A couple days ago I ran across a listing for a Fender Custom Shop Telecaster with a Parsons-White B & G StringBender. It was in great shape and priced right. I would've bought the guitar just for the Parsons-White StringBender on it's own. I've got a Nashville Tele with a Parsons-Green so it'll be a treat to try the original version.

It’s hard to say how things will go with the G bender. It’ll be an interesting exploration. It’s also got me wondering if Open G might make for a good tuning with a double bender. I briefly had a Les Paul Jr. with Open G and I liked it but I didn’t dig into it too far before selling the guitar.

I'm looking forward to her arrival next week.




 
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Wow, that looks great. I really want to try a guitar with a B Bender installed. I'd like a Nashville Tele myself, but just waiting for one at a reasonable price. Are they heavy with all that mechanism in them?
 

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Wow, that looks great. I really want to try a guitar with a B Bender installed. I'd like a Nashville Tele myself, but just waiting for one at a reasonable price. Are they heavy with all that mechanism in them?

My Fender Nashville Tele with the Parsons-Green clocks in at 9 lbs. The same as an old Les Paul Custom that I’ve got.

I’ve heard that when someone adds a Parsons-White the routing removes about as much weight as the StringBender adds. I’d suspect that could vary a little with depending on the weight of the body.

Traditional benders don’t have bodies with belly cuts so they are going to run a touch heavier on average.

I’ve been watching prices for used Tele benders for a while and it’s hard to spot anything for less than $2500. That said you may be able to get a new Brent Mason with the Glaser bender for a little less. The bigger issue is that supply of everything gear-wise is on the low side.
 

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That's about the same weight as my Bass VI, so not too bad.

There is one on eBay which is described as being "in showroom condition" and "never played". It's collection only though and at 220 miles away, a bit far to try out!

I probably shouldn't buy any more guitars for the time being though, but will keep an eye out for one in case it comes up for the right price. I may not even get on with using one, but I like the idea of it.
 

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It arrived today. It doesn’t look like whomever originally bought this one ever played it. There’s still plastic on the metal latches. I hadn’t noticed it comes with Dunlop strap locks. Although I’ve standardized on Schallers, it’s still a plus to have these rather than nothing.

It came set for a whole step on the B string and a half step on the G string. The low E was tuned to D. This begs the question of how to set each string and the tuning. I’m thinking a whole step on both and maybe Open G.
 
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Looks great! :cool: I have a 1998 Nashville Tele with a
factory B-Bender (it's in my avatar). How do you work the G-Bender?

It works off the right hip with a short strap to the butt of the guitar. It’s a very short throw. Bam, it’s there. I’ve left it at a half step as that’s how I got it. I don’t know yet if a whole step is better.
 

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The neck is a touch chunkier than I like but it’s the very small (Fender vintage?) frets that makes it tougher. I might replace the neck at some point with something I like better. But I’ll learn to love it as is for a while before getting busy with it.
 

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Gene put a bender on one of my guitars in ‘82.
The name change to Parsons/Green, to my knowledge, didn’t mean the mechanism was changed, but I’d have to ask Gene or Meridian to be sure.
Back in ‘73, whilst I was living in Mendocino, and briefly in a band with him, he offered to put a bender on my ‘54.
When he said, “I’ll have to cut…”, I demonstrably said, “No!”, but later found an appropriate instrument to have one applied.
 

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B vs G . When we spoke we didn't talk about this.

While many approach a double Bender with excellent expectations, the real issue is they are different instruments which appear similar.

Why do I say this ? Because the PULLING or RELEASING intervals and fret board positions are in totally different locations. We can study and become somewhat prominent on the B or the G, but when we go to the other one, well, the stock root positions are different. Its a whole new fret board education.

Now add that if we have a single pull, it comes off the strap pull, being at the upper body bout or neck plate. IF we have BOTH, the strap will pull the B, and the lanyard connected to our belt or something pulls the G. Its like a circus act, we gotta be able to do it and do it smoothly ! :eek:


My opinion here, not that it matters to anyone, LEARN ONE, B or G, proficiently. Then add the other if desired. Doing both at the same time is gonna be quite a task. We will learn LICKS instead of the fret board root positions, two totally different things.

A few weeks back on a forum, a player asked me about my guitar, I said its a B Pull. He said - Oh its not a double ? I said nope. He said he is getting a double. I asked what he had now, he said neither. He said he wants to learn and play like Clarence, Marty and Brad on one guitar. I wished him well. He did ask why I only had a B and not a double. I responded rather quickly... because its probably gonna take me the rest of my life to get proficient on the B pull alone ! And thats the truth !:eek:
 
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Gene put a bender on one of my guitars in ‘82.
The name change to Parsons/Green, to my knowledge, didn’t mean the mechanism was changed, but I’d have to ask Gene or Meridian to be sure.
Back in ‘73, whilst I was living in Mendocino, and briefly in a band with him, he offered to put a bender on my ‘54.
When he said, “I’ll have to cut…”, I demonstrably said, “No!”, but later found an appropriate instrument to have one applied.

I think the Parsons/Green debuted in 1989 and eventually was used in production guitars starting in about 1996. Today both a Parsons/White and Parsons/Green are available. But not just anywhere.


I know!!!

B vs G . When we spoke we didn't talk about this.

While many approach a double Bender with excellent expectations, the real issue is they are different instruments which appear similar.

Why do I say this ? Because the PULLING or RELEASING intervals and fret board positions are in totally different locations. We can study and become somewhat prominent on the B or the G, but when we go to the other one, well, the stock root positions are different. Its a whole new fret board education.

Now add that if we have a single pull, it comes off the strap pull, being at the upper body bout or neck plate. IF we have BOTH, the strap will pull the B, and the lanyard connected to our belt or something pulls the G. Its like a circus act, we gotta be able to do it and do it smoothly ! :eek:


My opinion here, not that it matters to anyone, LEARN ONE, B or G, proficiently. Then add the other if desired. Doing both at the same time is gonna be quite a task. We will learn LICKS instead of the fret board root positions, two totally different things.

A few weeks back on a forum, a player asked me about my guitar, I said its a B Pull. He said - Oh its not a double ? I said nope. He said he is getting a double. I asked what he had now, he said neither. He said he wants to learn and play like Clarence, Marty and Brad on one guitar. I wished him well. He did ask why I only had a B and not a double. I responded rather quickly... because its probably gonna take me the rest of my life to get proficient on the B pull alone ! And thats the truth !:eek:

First of all, thank you for chiming in and I assume you are right.

The coordination of pull down and “in” to activate the butt side mechanism is challenging.

That said, I’m think about tuning the guitar to Open G to facilitate good bends in context.
 

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Up above I misspoke I said the "stock root positions are different " regarding the B or the G Pull. Thats an error and poor choice of words, its the "phrasing positions and intervals " that are different, not the STOCK ROOT positions.

Sorry for the error !
 




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