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NGD: Epi Casino, 2nd try

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Sotakoira Musti, Dec 28, 2020.

  1. Sotakoira Musti

    Sotakoira Musti Tele-Holic

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    I had one these Chinese made Casinos made in 2017. It was just awful. Fretboard was supposed to be Indian Rosewood, but it looked like very pale walnut colourwise. The pickups sucked big time and I never bonded with it.

    I fancied to give it another try and bought another one from Thomann brand new. The price was raised in 2,5 years from 522€ to 599€.

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    First impressions:

    Off with pickguard. Fit and finish good. Frets needs polishing, bending is bit sticky. The pau ferro fretboard looks much nicer and darker than the previous one.

    Setup was terrible, action and intonation all over the place. The fact that it had been sitting in some logistics center or back of a truck during christmas, so no wonder. Some tweaking around, playing for good half hour and it actually sounded quite good plugged straight to AC30 and 65 PRRI.

    Not sure if this will be a keeper (I keep my eyes open for Inspired by John Lennon), but at this moment won’t return it and add to my JL herd.
     
  2. brookdalebill

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    Cool!
    I like the natural finish ones best.
     
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  3. Twang Deluxe

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    I also had an MIC Epiphone Casino. It was awful and I sold it.

    I hope that your new guitar is better
     
  4. stormsedge

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    Sweet!
     
  5. M2roadwarrior

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    Congrats! That’s a nice guitar!
     
  6. bgmacaw

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    I hope this one works for you.

    I wanted a Casino in the past but never found one I liked in stores.
     
  7. Chiogtr4x

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    I bought a used Cherry Casino for about a year in the early 2000's, but I was also gifted a '56 LP Goldtop clone around the same time- which completely distracted me, and I sold the Casino ( to help fund Lollar P-90's for the LP)
    What I remember about my Casino was that it was so light and comfy being fully hollow, and the neck was very round C-shape- smallish but felt great, comfy.
    But the intonation was off a bit and the pickups were frustrating, as just like previous Epis I had owned before ( those, with humbuckers), you had to have Volume controls on the guitar all the way up to have any definition/high end.
    Even with the Casino P-90's it was the same, muffled tone as soon as I turned down a bit ( and I had a DR, so, a bright amp)
    I now own a 2018 Epi SG that is just fantastic, including the pickups and pots.

    A long way of saying if I got a Casino, it would have to be a new one, as a guitar where you have to keep its volume cranked is just useless for me, if you lose tone when turning down.
     
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  8. 1293

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    I have cherry Casino. I was in the middle upgrading the electronics when my son was born. It's been in its case and I haven't seen it since. The boy turned 13 last week.
     
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  9. tah1962

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    Very nice! Congratulations.
     
  10. Sotakoira Musti

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    Okay, an hour or so more playing and some things came up:

    First, the nut is bit tight. File and/or lube or have one made.

    Then, change to 11-49, 10s are too floppy.

    Third, this one is second guitar in a row (Fender Mustang I got on 25th) that just doesn’t sound good when played clean and quiet. Needs to crank up, but it’s worth it.

    Neck is very comfortable, having some shoulder (D-profile?).

    Headstock is butt-ugly no matter how much one looks at it. But hey, it is perfect paddle for canoeing!
     
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    Congrats, it looks good. Enjoy.
     
  12. nojazzhere

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    That is definitely a beauty.....I, too love the natural (John Lennon-ish) finish.
    That said, I have a 335-style guitar (Grote) made in China, and the finish and details, including pickups, are amazingly good, but I have difficulty adjusting to the big body. I've played mostly Fender and other brand solid bodies for so long, that the massive "breast-shield" of these is quite awkward.
    For some reason, it just occurred to me that, while Lennon obviously liked HIS Casino for a while, he then "down-sized" to his Les Paul Jr with added Charlie Christian p/up.....don't know if the size was a factor or not.....but they ARE easier to handle.
    Anyway, hope you enjoy and it works out for you. ;)
     
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    To your point on controls.....I never liked how, when using both pickups, to adjust volume without altering tone, you have to adjust BOTH knobs equally....."on the fly" while performing this is difficult. So I always re-wire those guitars to a ONE volume knob/ONE tone knob set-up. This way, if you adjust volume, it doesn't alter the tone you have set. Yes, you lose some of those minute, micro, tone changes that are possible the original way, but I don't miss those.
     
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    What I usually seem to do is keep the tone controls all the way up on your stock Gibson, to sort of eliminate variables
    But that also comes from having Epiphone whose pickups were so muddy I had to keep the tone controls all the way up anyhow

    And then I'm using the volume controls when I'm using both pickups as the tone controls you can shade towards one pickup or the other

    I play sitting down and one thing I noticed with my new Epiphone SG is the volume and tone controls are in a perfect line of sight for any kind of adjustment everything is much easier and everything sounds really good wherever I dial things in the pick up there much clearer
    It literally is like the perfect Gibson for Fender player this particular guitar plus it has a coil taps
     
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    Interesting that the serial number label is blue and not orange- blue is generally what they use for the higher end models like the Lennon and Gary Clark. What does it say?
     
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    Nice looking guitar, OP. I'm digging the 'worn' models with the satin finish. I like the looks of the black one the best.

    A while back I read something about one being issued in sort of a Gretsch 'orange', but never saw one for sale.
     
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    Congrats! How are the pickups? I find the pickups are often the worst part of Epi's, just feel rather dull to me on the standard models.

    I found a perfect Epiphone Casino once. Sounded great, just cost more than I think I'd ever spend on a guitar. Original 1966, very good condition, around $4000. The pickups were absolute magic and it was very resonant unplugged.
     

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    The Lennon Casino is very nice and done right. All the other reissues, need pickups, a tone pros bridge & new tuners;then, you have a guitar. I my research, i found you could have the stock pickups rewound but I went Antiquity & Wolfetone. And, I downsized to the Coupe.
     
  19. Sotakoira Musti

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    Crappy pic, sorry... But something about warranty void is the serial is unreadable.

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  20. Guitarteach

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    Me too.. 1963, made in Kalamazoo. Got the smaller gibson style headstock and absolutely killer P90’s. Worn for me like a comfortable pair of slippers. Had this one for nearly 40 years.... a lifer. Paid peanuts for it.

    Worth the hunt to find a good one. They certainly have their own thing going on.

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