NGD: 2008 Epiphone Casino (Korea)

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by sbpark, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. sbpark

    sbpark Friend of Leo's

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    Picked up a 2008 Korean made Casino over the weekend. It appears to have never been touched, in mint condition. Neck was dead straight, maybe even a little back-bowed with stupid high action, but sounded incredible so I pulled the trigger. Got it home, put some relief in the neck, lowered the action and now it feels and plays wonderfully...only issue now is it doesn't sound as good. Obviously because the action was so high and the strings were a bit further away from the pickups. This seems to be the ONLY issue I have ever had with Casinos. All you can really do is raise the pickups with shims, but the only real way to get the strings further away from the pickups is raising the action, which obviously affects playability. I know the general rule of thumb for P90's is they sound best with the strings as close as possible. But as most of us know, the Epi P90's are stupid hot (around 12-13k). Tried lowering the pole pieces which helps a little, but I lose clarity and they get muddy. Didn't want to go down the proverbial rabbit hole and spend a ton of money on the guitar, but absolutely love how it feels and plays now. Ended up ordering a new set of Kent Armstrong P90's for the Casino for $105 for the set. they're wound around 8k and seem to be liked by many. Wasn't into spending double on something boutique, and I had some Fralin's in another Casino I sued to have but never bonded with them. Just looking for that woody, slightly under-wound sound.

    I have owned a 2014 Epi Casino, and compared to this one I'd say that the 2014 had a better fit and finish, most notably the f-holes. They are a little sloppy on the Korean made 2008, but actually aside from that I have zero complaints. The neck is also a little beefier than the 2014's neck.

    All in all I REALLY love this guitar. Looks great, was super easy to set up, plays wonderfully and just oping the new pickups seal the deal. I removed the pick guard because I prefer the look.

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  2. PunkKitty

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    Very nice!
     
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    Looks great. I have one of the limited gold top models that came out a few years ago. Love that guitar. Had plans to replace the bridge and the pickups but I think it sounds great as is. I had a fret level and setup done and that went a long way to making it feel pro. I use nickle round core strings or Dunlop heavy core 11s and they provide the best feel. I'll see if I can find a picture.
     
  4. sbpark

    sbpark Friend of Leo's

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    Thats the Casino I used to have as well. Gorgeous looking guitar, just couldn't bond with it.
     
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    Congrats on a real looker SB. VERY nice!!!
     
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    Maybe go up to thicker string and get a pack with wound 3rd. My son has P90's on his 1963 Gibson ES 125T and he's got 12-54's with wound 3rd.
     
  7. Jushden

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    Here's my instashot

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    Hope it doesn't show too big.

    What case are you guys using for your casinos? Looking for one that isn't bulky like an acoustic guitar case. In my mind it should be possible to make a shallow hard case not all that much thicker than the instrument itself. I've never seen in person the case that epiphone makes.
     
  8. sbpark

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    Sounds great with .010's. No need to switch or make it complicated!
     
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    I've owned two of the Epiphone cases. They're decent enough if you're just a regular player who plays the occasional local gig, bars, jams, etc. WOuldn't rely on it if I was a touring musician though.
     
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    Beautiful! Congratulations.
     
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    That's hot. HNGD
     
  12. sjtalon

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    I have a Cherry '06 (Saein) Korea as well. LOVE IT !
    And installed the Kent Armstrong Casino pups in it.
     
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    Care to share the differences you noticed between the stockers and the Kent Armstrong's?
     
  14. bendercaster

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    Nice Casino! I have a Peerless made Casino from the 90s. The specs have changed a little over the years--depending on where and when they were made, but mine has lower output pickups than the newer Casinos have. Hopefully the new pickups will do the trick for you.
     
  15. sbpark

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    I really hope they do because I really love the way this guitar plays.
     
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    I don't play distorted, dirty any of that sort of thing with the Casino so didn't care for the hot of them. Too me they seemed more humbucker, darker.


    Thing I like about the K A's is they are more chimey you could say. More kinda jangley, clear Casino to me. Guess I'm not a true P90 guy, not in a Casino anyway.

    They advertise "Classic Warmth". IDK that I would agree to that. I wouldn't want "warmth" anyway with them.
     
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    They just arrived in the mail yesterday and I'll put them in this evening. Your description is promising. I also had a Gibson SG Classic with the Gibson P90's and even thought they were too hot for my liking. I do like a bit of breakup, more like 'edge of breakup' sound, but still like the natural tone of the guitar to come through, otherwise I might as well be playing a generic shredder guitar, right? It's a full hollow body guitar, so I still like that sound to be present. With the stock pickups it just muds everything up when I lowered the pole pieces way down, and when they were in their stock position it was too much fuzz and dirt. Way too hot.
     
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    Unfortunately I have never been able to bond with a casino, but I can recognize a great guitar, so enjoy yours, she is a real beauty!
    Congrats.
     
  19. bendercaster

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    Sbpark,

    The p90s on my casino have a dcr of about 7.8k ohms. The p90s of the newer Casinos are noticeably hotter (and in my opinion muddier). However, even mine are very touch sensitive. It I strum lightly I get a nice, jangly sound. If I hit the strings a little harder it sends my amp into overdrive. I think some of that is just the nature of p90s though.
     
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