NFL playoffs are set

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Kind of an interesting Superbowl for the extended family. My nephew played ball at Cinci with the Kelce bros, was roommates with one and I recall both were at his wedding (one ushered). Gotta be a dilemma for their mama Donna, lol.
 

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Joel Embid and Kevin Hart at the Eagles-49ers Game. The jokes write themselves.

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Have your tried it? absolutely slappin. Just forget it is chili and think of some Greek family you and how their food has such a unique, delicious marriage of spices. You won't be disappointed.
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I think that defender just overcorrected after a couple of missed tackles had already hurt them.

Cincinnati was hurt a bit by a few of those questionable calls but really it was sloppy playing that doomed them. That holding call penalty when they had sacked Mahomes? Excruciating.
What, you think Referees can't call Visit My Bookie? ;)
 

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Cincinnati was hurt a bit by a few of those questionable calls but really it was sloppy playing that doomed them. That holding call penalty when they had sacked Mahomes? Excruciating.
Yep, the Bengals had ZERO yards offense in the entire first half!
They lost that game on their own, but the final blow was Ossai hitting Mahome's out of bounds giving the Chiefs 15 yards and a winning field goal with only seconds left to play DUH!. Otherwise OT.
Their chances died due to one player's inability to play like his pay level requires!

But the Bengals play caller should be canned by now, Tied at ~6 mins they needed only 3 yards for a first down, the play call TWICE in a row was two long passes instead of going for the first down which would have readily lead to a potential winning field goal.
The worst thing about the NFL is the hot and cold officiating. For instance: they wont call PI for an entire game sometimes then call some marginal PI at a game changing moment. They need to be consistent throughout the game.
 

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Guys, I understand your frustrations, at the supposedly missed calls, but man that is part and parcel of the game!

How many refs do you want on the field? I’m thinking 25 to cover the field completely. But, even then, some calls will be missed. Plus, with that many refs, wouldn’t they get in the way?

Missed calls are gonna happen. They are just more glaring in the playoffs.

What a great matchup for the SB! Andy Reid facing his former team! I love Andy Reid, and the excitement that he brought to Philadelphia. We rooted for KC against them Cincy boys.

I have been involved with football since I was a kid, including playing midget football all the way through high school. I just want to see a good game, and for Nick, and all the rest of them rascals, I hope Philly prevails!
 

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Of course bad calls are more apparent and impactful in the playoffs. But NFL officiating has regressed notably in the last few years, including during regular season.
I'd venture to say that the officiating is roughly what it's always been and it just seems to have regressed because of the myriad angles/replays and the way in which the broadcasts will dissect them. That and over-complicating some of the calls, such as what constitutes a catch.
 

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On field officiating is as good as it's ever going to get. The game is just too fast to call perfectly. What they should do is utilize the existing process for reviewing scoring and turnover plays for all plays during the playoffs only. This is done by the 'eye in the sky' refs in a centralized location.

I don't think anyone would mind a few minutes added to the game in order to get things right. A prime example would be the non-catch by the Eagles in the first qtr that was ruled a catch. Everyone at home knew immediately that something was up - the game should have been stopped and the play reviewed. That changed the whole complexion of the game from that point forward.
 

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On field officiating is as good as it's ever going to get. The game is just too fast to call perfectly. What they should do is utilize the existing process for reviewing scoring and turnover plays for all plays during the playoffs only. This is done by the 'eye in the sky' refs in a centralized location.

I don't think anyone would mind a few minutes added to the game in order to get things right. A prime example would be the non-catch by the Eagles in the first qtr that was ruled a catch. Everyone at home knew immediately that something was up - the game should have been stopped and the play reviewed. That changed the whole complexion of the game from that point forward.
at the root of the problem is gambling. no way to eliminate it, but because the NFL has embraced it and benefits from gambling, they have extended the 'gamble' to the game itself. Each Officiating crew has a member 'in the booth'. But, instead of using that official throughout the game that when a clear mistake is made, an egregious call has been missed or made, the NFL relies on coaches to use limited, old timey, red flags that they have to 'bet' they are right in order to right a wrong.

This is preposterous. They have an official who sees the replays and can tell when something isn't right and deserves another look. It would be trivial for him to signal to the field to just 'hang on a second' while he takes a look. If it is wrong, he can correct it right then and there or if he cannot quite tell, he can notify the league and they can review it (the way they do now)

This would take all the threat out of losing a timeout away from just trying to get the call right. The way it is now, actually has its own gambling feature that robs the game of its legitimacy.

This would also make it less likely to have the 5 down mistake that one crew made and the host of other mistakes that make the game less enjoyable.
 

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I don't think anyone would mind a few minutes added to the game in order to get things right. A prime example would be the non-catch by the Eagles in the first qtr that was ruled a catch. Everyone at home knew immediately that something was up - the game should have been stopped and the play reviewed. That changed the whole complexion of the game from that point forward.
Totally agree. Unfortunate and I understand that it is part of the game but those circumstances should be handled better in the playoffs for sure.
 

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Sure some calls were missed. As a fan it throws off the game.
4th and 3 catch was a miss, but not an obvious miss. You needed the right camera angle. It ultimately set the Eagles up for a touchdown that put pressure on SF to keep up. What no one is talking about is the Eagles were well coached enough to move fast to avoid leaving time to challenge. All teams know the rules and the loopholes and try to exploit them. Everyone that drops a pass is trained to act like you caught it.

The punt hitting the wire was a miss. Helped 49ers field position.
Roughing the kicker - could have been running-into-kicker or a close no-call.
There were some borderline late hits that weren't called.

The thing that really threw the game into crazy mode was the loss of Brock Purdy. This is where the game became an unfair fight. That kid was the one chance SF had to have a pro offense in this game. 49ers pressed extra hard after that and when you press extra hard you raise your chances of being caught in a penalty.
SF needs to look at why it lost 4 quarterbacks. Bad luck? Bad protection schemes? Bad personnel?
 

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Guys, I understand your frustrations, at the supposedly missed calls, but man that is part and parcel of the game!

How many refs do you want on the field? I’m thinking 25 to cover the field completely. But, even then, some calls will be missed. Plus, with that many refs, wouldn’t they get in the way?

Missed calls are gonna happen. They are just more glaring in the playoffs.

What a great matchup for the SB! Andy Reid facing his former team! I love Andy Reid, and the excitement that he brought to Philadelphia. We rooted for KC against them Cincy boys.

I have been involved with football since I was a kid, including playing midget football all the way through high school. I just want to see a good game, and for Nick, and all the rest of them rascals, I hope Philly prevails!

Of course bad calls are more apparent and impactful in the playoffs. But NFL officiating has regressed notably in the last few years, including during regular season.

On field officiating is as good as it's ever going to get. The game is just too fast to call perfectly. What they should do is utilize the existing process for reviewing scoring and turnover plays for all plays during the playoffs only. This is done by the 'eye in the sky' refs in a centralized location.

I don't think anyone would mind a few minutes added to the game in order to get things right. A prime example would be the non-catch by the Eagles in the first qtr that was ruled a catch. Everyone at home knew immediately that something was up - the game should have been stopped and the play reviewed. That changed the whole complexion of the game from that point forward.
The whole issue of bad reff-ing is readily solvable. They already have someone "in New York" watching the game for concussions. He's sitting there twiddling his thumbs probably 95% of the game. He sees what we see on tv quickly. He could intervene on a bad, or blatantly missed call quickly, just like he does for a potential head injury.
 

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at the root of the problem is gambling. no way to eliminate it, but because the NFL has embraced it and benefits from gambling, they have extended the 'gamble' to the game itself. Each Officiating crew has a member 'in the booth'. But, instead of using that official throughout the game that when a clear mistake is made, an egregious call has been missed or made, the NFL relies on coaches to use limited, old timey, red flags that they have to 'bet' they are right in order to right a wrong.

This is preposterous. They have an official who sees the replays and can tell when something isn't right and deserves another look. It would be trivial for him to signal to the field to just 'hang on a second' while he takes a look. If it is wrong, he can correct it right then and there or if he cannot quite tell, he can notify the league and they can review it (the way they do now)

This would take all the threat out of losing a timeout away from just trying to get the call right. The way it is now, actually has its own gambling feature that robs the game of its legitimacy.

This would also make it less likely to have the 5 down mistake that one crew made and the host of other mistakes that make the game less enjoyable.
I agree with this 100%. The problem is with the referrees themselves not wanting to give up their authority on the field, and the ref's union pushing back against any kind of accountability for them. The NFL is scared to death of being caught in another "replacement ref" situation like they were a few years ago.

But its reaching a point where a lot of fans- even casual fans- are starting to wonder if there's a script that the referees are following. It doesn't help when an obviously BS call is immediately followed by a FanDuel commercial.
 

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The NFL needs full-time refs, not moonlighting lawyers. Full-time training in the off-season for those refs. They also need to put sensors in the football that can locate the ball’s exact position. Hasn’t the NHL done that with hockey pucks? Then there would be no dispute: did the ball go over the line-to-gain, or not?
 
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