New speaker in Silverface Champ.

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  1. Keefsdad

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    I had a cheap generic speaker in it the high end was harsh, with little bass. I put a Celestion Eight15 in it today, it's much better. Now the top end is nice and smooth. It still doesn't have a lot of bass, but it is an 8" spkr after all. A little more than before. A really nice upgrade for the $40 I paid for the spkr new. This amp is seeing more gigs lately due to the trend of lower volume in clubs around here. At one time I would never have used it on a gig with drums, but as I explained in another thread, I took it to a gig with drums recently and was told it was "way too loud"
     
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    I have always wanted to try an Eminence baslite 10" ($99 bass speaker) in a Champ.
     
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    Place it with the back against the wall....bass response will be there
     
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    I've looked at a few replacement speakers as well.
    WGS and Weber are at the top of my list if I ever decide to go for it.
    Good to hear about the celestion
     
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    The cheaper Webers are supposed to be good, either Alnico or ceramic. A friend of mine has the ceramic in his and it sounds fine.
    Al
     
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    If I wanted a louder more robust Champ I'd find a Weber 8F150. The Emi 820h was an improvement, but not an 8F150 improvement!
     
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    It's funny, we usually think of Celestions as "British" speakers, not to be used in the oh-so American Fender amps. But every once in a while you hear about somebody who loves a Celestion in a Fender. I believe Jim Campilongo uses a Celestion 10" in his #1 silverface Princeton Reverb.

    I have a MuchXS Champ head, with a Lopoline 1-12" cabinet with an Eminence 1258 in it. I think it was about $50 for the speaker and I love it with the Champ. No need to spend more for the fancy blue or red line speakers.

    At our last reunion show, my band's singer borrowed the MuchXS Champ. We sat it on the floor under the keyboard stand. After we played one song for sound check, the keyboard player asked us to move it to the other side of the stage because it was too loud.

    Even a little bitty 5-watt Champ can make a racket when it's driving an efficient, modern, 10" or 12" speaker.
     
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    The Jensen RI 8" I put in my last Tweed Champ build blew me away. Lots of bass, full sounding, low headroom. I loved it.

    Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
     
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    What is the impedance of that speaker? If it's 16 ohms DON'T USE IT.

    The Champ takes a 4 ohm speaker. They can work safely - usually - with 8 ohm speakers, but NOT with 16 ohms. It can damage the amplifier. You would get better tone and response with the 4 ohm version if you installed the 8-ohm.

    The size is not the only consideration - impedance is the most critical spec.
     
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    Yes, I realize that, it is 4 ohms
     
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    Check out a Jupiter 8SC. I’ve got one in my ‘66 VC. Sounds like a 10, they go great in BF vintage Fenders.
     
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    I'm sure it's great, but i have a budget and am happy with the Celestion.
     
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    I have a closed back 4x8 cabinet. It has the snap of 8's and the thump of a bigger speaker.

    A closed back 1x8 or 2x8 is something I'm interested in trying.
     
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    Seconded. Much better, to me ears, than the Weber Vintage I had in it before.
     
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    This. So much. And it'll give you some reverb, too.
     
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    Too loud.... sounds crazy!!!! A 5w amp is about as loud as a trumpet.... It can hardly keep up with a drummer.

    They're funny amps. Too loud for home without master volume, not loud enough for band practice.

    Still, I love my Orange AD5. I take the AD15 or bigger for practice / open mids / small gigs or a bigger amp if needed.
     
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    I widened the baffle on my 68 Vibro Champ and installed a 10 inch 4 ohm Peavey Scorpion. Much louder and sounds better.
     
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    That Weber is what's in mine. Happy with it.
     
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    Thats why i added a Mastervolume to my 5F1 clone.
     
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