New speaker for 1969 Deluxe Reverb

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  1. joecool324

    joecool324 TDPRI Member

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    My 1969 Deluxe Reverb is going to a tech to get repaired in the coming weeks and while it’s there I am going to have the speaker changed as well. I am thinking of replacing it with a Celestion Alnico Cream. However, I am debating if a Celestion Gold or Vintage 30 would work better. I usually play a tele and traditional country, 50s and 60s rock, classic rock and Americana. Does anyone here have experience with these speakers in Fender style amps (Deluxe Reverbs especially)? If so, what were your impressions of them?
     
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    Emi GA SC 64 ........DONE!

    But seriously, you may like any of those you mention. I tried a Greenback in mine for a month or so. Liked it at first but later tired of it. The only other Celestion I remember trying is various versions of the G12-65 by Celestion, Weber etc. They were ok but not what I wanted. A cream or gold alnico could be very nice. I'm just not an alnico fan myself.
     
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    I'm mostly using an alnico blue with my DR, which is very similar to yours (mine is from the early 70s). I like it, and I think you'd be happy with it for 50s and 60s sounds. It's thick and rich and has that cool smooth yet thick high midrange thing going on that I've never found in any other speaker. But I don't think I'd want to use it for country. You just lose too much of that bright Fender zing.

    FWIW, I also have a G12H30, but I don't care for it with the DR. Too big in the low end and a bit too strident in the highs. I think the Greenback would work better, though (IME, that speaker may not be great, but sounds at least good with everything). I've also used an old Jensen P12Q with it. Not nearly as nice as the Blue. Can't handle the bass and too attenuated in the highs. Nice midrange, though.
     
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    Vintage 30. Fits very well with Fender Deluxe.
     
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    Here's my short list, ranked on my taste:
    - Weber 12F150T
    - Emi Lil Texas
    - Emi Cannabis Rex
    - MojoTone BV30H
    - WGS ET65

    I have yet to try the Emi GA-SC64 but likely will in the near future! Don't know if it can beat the 21F150T...
     
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    Of the two choices I’d go with the Gold (I dislike V30’s). My BFDR actually had a Celestion Blue (similar to a Gold) inside when I bought it. The Blue sounded good in the amp, but it made my Deluxe Reverb sound less like a vintage Fender amp, and more like a British sounding amp.

    Playing Country, why go with a British sounding speaker? I second the GASC64 or Weber’s version of a Jensen C12N.

    I just did a thread on the GASC64 in my BF Deluxe Reverb. I really like that speaker.

    https://www.tdpri.com/threads/search-ended-vintage-dr-speaker-replacement.973042/
     
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    Ya. I have Celestion Cream in a PRRI and Celestion Gold in a DRRI. Both great..
    Has both US and brit to it. Not as bright as as US ceramic types, but with the
    extra headroom for both, you can do almost anything. I may flip around
    some day or look at the new Ruby. I am a alnico nut.
     
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    Alessandro SC64. Vintage Jensen tones in a modern high capacity, high efficiency speaker.

    Great vintage tones, not expensive.

    You play classic Americana, custom made.
     
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    Deluxe Reverbs are a funny amp in that they're either too loud or not loud enough. I put a Maverick in mine for some added flexibility.
     
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    There's another thread about the Alessandro too ... I tried a few different choices in a late SFDR and ended up with the Cannabis Rex. Generally I love Eminence speakers (great values that they are) and the the Rex was the one that best represented my amp.
     
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    Are you looking to retain the character of the amp that you're used to and just want a new speaker for reliability or are you changing because you're seeking a tonal change?

    I've tried a lot of speakers in Fenders in for repair and don't like the vintage 30 for what you're playing at all. I think the celestion gold does everything well in a fender but very differently than the old seamed cone american speakers. It won't sound like the vintage speaker you've got in there if it's in good shape. Its hard to beat the sweetness and openness of those vintage guys.
     
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    Not really looking to retain the character. The person I bought it from replaced the vintage speaker after it needed to be repaired with a Celestion Seventy/Eighty which sounds ok but not great. I like alnicos in other amps I’ve played.
     
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    I’ve owned/tried every speaker mentioned here. They are all great in their own ways, but I went with the Alnico Cream.
     
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    I may be "odd man out" among many players, but I've never been a fan of Celestions. I've long preferred Jensens, or Eminence copies. Electro Harmonix used to carry their own brand, made by Eminence. They had Jensen copies, and Celestion copies......and I STILL liked the Jensen style.
    I even put an Eminence 12" in my Vox Pathfinder 15R....that's how much I prefer them. ;)
     
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    If you want that nice vintage fender alnico tone I’d say go for a WGS g12A or an eminence Eric Johnson model (ej-1240 - also designed with George Alessandro like the ga-sc64) - I preferred the wgs. Celestions are nice but leave a lot to be desired with clean tones in a fender, I think.
     
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    I've found the ceramic G12m-65 Creamback to be my favorite DR speaker other than some of the original Oxfords from the mid-60's.

    Warehouse speakers also makes an excellent copy at a much lower price. I'd use either one - but not a Vintage 30 or Greenback.
     
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    I know it's not Alnico, but I'd go with either an old or new (I've got both and love 'em) EVM12L. Great sounding speaker. Doesn't color your sound...only delivers whatever it is your amp already has. For Country, or just about any music style you can't do better! That speaker is Boss!
     
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    I’m a huge fan of the Neo Creamback in my Deluxe Reverb. It comes standard in the 68 Custom with the Pine Cabinet.
     
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    These are as close to NOS sound as you can get with these IMO if you want the stock Fendery sound.
     
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