New neck day - Warmoth w/stainless steel. Early impressions.

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Ordered on June 9, my new Warmoth Tele-style neck arrived on July 12. It was an in-stock neck but I ordered a finish so this was well within the timeline they provided.

Specs on the old neck:
From 1999, the original neck was maple with maple cap fingerboard, "tall/narrow" 6105 frets, "standard thin" profile, and "Modern" construction with double truss rod.

After a refret somewhere around 2010-2012, I had played the frets down quite a bit. The guitar still sounded good but had become noticeably less fun to play than my other electrics. Not acceptable.

The new neck:
I decided to order a new neck rather than refret the original. Mostly I wanted to take the plunge with stainless steel frets.

I considered roasted maple. I have a Warmoth roasted maple neck on a strat. It feels nice and looks dead sexy but seems slimmer than the tele neck. I'm not sure if this is because of the lack of finish, shrinkage from the roasting process, or just my imagination. I stuck with the satin finish to keep the new neck as close to the original as possible.

I changed to "vintage modern" construction with a single truss rod. I have two other Warmoths with the double rod and side-adjust. I like them fine and they are very stable but it seems like a significant amount of routing and metal machinery is involved. I hoped having more wood and less metal in the neck would help tonally balance out my other change:

Stainless steel 6150s. I considered going with the big boy 6100s but my other guitars have 6150s and I like them.

I stayed with the Sperzel tuners from the old neck, saving myself some money. Those Sperzels are over 20 years old and are still rock solid.

The neck prep:
Since I ordered the neck with a satin finish, the finish was on the frets. Warmoth recommends either removing this during the first fret job or just playing it off.

I bought some #0000 synthetic steel wool. I carefully masked off the frets with blue painter's tape and went to work with the steel wool to remove the finish. It took 1-2 hours.

This turned out to be a complete waste of time. The synthetic steel wool did almost nothing.

Moving on to the tuners, a handy drill jig from Sperzel with an included bit allowed me to drill the holes for the tuner stabilizing pins. After six repeats of this process, the tuners were on.

I applied a little soap to the neck mount screws and bolted it up. It fit nice and snug, just like the original.

I found a quick and clever way to dial in the truss rod initially. I strung a low E, tuned it to pitch, checked relief, then slacked it and torqued the rod. The rod was completely loose at first. It took a few turns before I even encountered any resistance or saw any change in relief. Once I had it between "flat" and "very slight backbow" with no relief on the low E, I added the other strings, checked it again, and found the relief was not bad at all. I'll tweak it over the coming days as it settles.

Now the guitar was playable. And it felt like crap. All that business about stainless steel feeling like glass was total bull. Bending strings felt gritty and there were notches and rough spots.

Well duh, that was the finish coming off the frets. I put on a magnifying visor and saw where the middle strings had flaked off the finish on the frets. Using the handle of a plastic spoon, I scraped off all of the rest. It was a little tedious but the result was fresh shiny frets.

The finish came off the stainless frets looking exactly like dried skin or a sunburn peel.
 
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Early Impressions:
The standard thin profile with the one-piece "vintage modern" construction and satin finish feels great. Other than some very slight tackiness, it feels as good or better than the neck it replaced. The tackiness will go away as it gets played -- I've experienced the same thing with other new necks.

The single truss rod construction is lighter. I'm not weight-sensitive with guitars but I notice a difference in the feel and resonance through my fretting hand.

The stainless frets feel really good. It's like the guitar just came from a fret polish job. I can fly on this thing now. Psychologically, not worrying about tearing them up lets me feel free to play more aggressively.

As far as changing the sound, it is not enough for me to change anything. I'm not adjusting my tone knob or amp settings after putting the neck on. I worried the stainless would be too bright but there is no less bass or midrange and the overall character is the same.

It's straight-up easy to play now. Hammers/pull-offs are clear. Bends feel smooth and controllable.

Would I do anything different? Yes. I should have ordered tint in the finish. I didn't realize how much the body's original transparent butterscotch had evolved over the years. It's darker with a more orange color now. The original neck had darkened along with it so I never saw a contrast.

The new neck looks almost white. It's jarring and somehow looks kind of cheap to me. I'm getting used to it but, yeah, should have gone with some tint.
 

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"The stainless frets feel really good. It's like the guitar just came from a fret polish job. I can fly on this thing now. Psychologically, not worrying about tearing them up lets me feel free to play more aggressively."

I was thinking along the same lines when I ordered my first neck with stainless frets. But it turned out that the larger/higher frets demanded a lighter touch anyway. Larger frets are good teachers that way if you hate out-of-tune chords and warped single notes.

"The new neck looks almost white. It's jarring and somehow looks kind of cheap to me. I'm getting used to it but, yeah, should have gone with some tint."
Same here. Although in time I found I liked that finish with a sapphire-blue body.
 

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It feels nice and looks dead sexy but seems slimmer than the tele neck. I'm not sure if this is because of the lack of finish, shrinkage from the roasting process
First off congrats on the neck. Warmoth is awesome. As far as shrinkage is concerned, the roasting occurs before the neck is shaped while the wood is still in blank form.

How necks feel in our hands is a sum of many factors beyond just the back profile, including the fretboard edge radius, the fret size, and the action height.
 

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First off congrats on the neck. Warmoth is awesome. As far as shrinkage is concerned, the roasting occurs before the neck is shaped while the wood is still in blank form.

How necks feel in our hands is a sum of many factors beyond just the back profile, including the fretboard edge radius, the fret size, and the action height.

Thanks for that info -- I've been really puzzled how this roasted maple strat neck has the exact same options as two other necks yet I somehow perceive it as slimmer. It's still a very nice neck.
 

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Very cool!

Many of my homebrews have SS fret wire. The stark white of the freshly finished maple will mellow over time. Leave it out of the case, but not in direct sunlight. In a few months it will mellow out and darken.

If you want to speed that neck up even more, do a level and polish or have a good tech do it. When Warmoth presses the fret wire in, that's the last time they touch the fret tops. They clip the ends and grind them flush, and they're done. If you think they feel great now--some TLC by a good tech, leveling the tops, rounding and smoothing the ends, and then polishing will make your jaw drop.
 

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Aaron did a YouTube video about the finish on the frets and how he removes it. You would think they’d provide one of those small slotted fretboard protectors, big enough to do one fret at a time at least. I have quite a bit of their stuff and have dealt with that a few times, but otherwise have never been disappointed with any of my purchases from them
 

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I prefer the raw wood with my necks nowadays. The type of wood that doesn't need a finish suits me well. All the necks I order from Warmoth are all special order with either roasted Maple, Padouk or Bloodwood for my last build. I prefer reverse telecaster headstock and stainless steel frets. Here is my last special order neck and the project I built.
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