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New Music Created By AI
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jvin248
Doctor of Teleocity
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Creative people are safe for the most part.
AI will more quickly take over publication and promotion of songs/content. All the bits that creatives want to get out of 'the record deal!' from a lable.
The problem will happen when AI figures out how to keep more royalties than artists get, just like the labels do today...
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Creative people are safe for the most part.
AI will more quickly take over publication and promotion of songs/content. All the bits that creatives want to get out of 'the record deal!' from a lable.
The problem will happen when AI figures out how to keep more royalties than artists get, just like the labels do today...
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only if the nuance of that artist is coded in or their playing style , there will come a time when AI will be able to hear some one and instead of repeating what is heard will use this information to create a convolution of that artist style to create original music , similar to how a convolution reverb can mimic a given audio environment for reverb. but will only address the techniques created by the artist. I believe
monkeybanana
Tele-Afflicted
I just want to say there is a "group" called AIsis. LOL. Heard about it in Rick Beato's vid on AI music.
It's maybe weird but I like it when a songwriter creates a song that includes words used grammatically wrong that put your mind in a place where the overall message of the song is enhanced. Dylan did this a lot. CCR, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, etc. all did this in a way that put you on the same "back porch" or "highway at night" or "bar stool". I wonder if AI would stick with "correct" wording and lose this mental link created through a true human songwriters misuse of the language. AI seems to go for perfection. Some of my favorite songs were created around a lack of perfection.
drewg
Tele-Afflicted
I agree. Even the term ‘grammatical correctness’ (spellcheck, grammarly, chatgpt) at times reaches the level of oppressive taskmaster. Sometimes microsoft outlook tells me to put in an optional ’that’ when it is perfectly acceptable to leave it out. Languages evolve and vary regionally, which is completely natural. We say ‘me and my friend’ all the time. Songwriters are reflecting real life speech and feelings. I like to hear it in songs too!
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I agree wholly, AI will develope but will never replace the human element, only the technique or style used. With out a finite set of instructions or model to follow( like swing , classical, country, etc. ), all AI music will be random and self generative . a well versed musician can take any song , any song , and can play it in any style , EG. classical tune played rock, country, jazz, flamenco if you want, based on chord structure , melody, hooks and movements, then take it back to its original form, and at the same time create and develop an new song in another direction entirely ( that is a ton of code for any computer. at present)
Ed Driscoll
Friend of Leo's
Here's AI-generated percussion:
Not for me, but I imagine a lot of beat-makers will be really into this. However, I'd love to see AI advance commercially-available demix/remix technology to the artifact-free level that Peter Jackson's guys recently did for Giles Martin to remix Revolver from scratch.
Not for me, but I imagine a lot of beat-makers will be really into this. However, I'd love to see AI advance commercially-available demix/remix technology to the artifact-free level that Peter Jackson's guys recently did for Giles Martin to remix Revolver from scratch.
Refugee
Friend of Leo's
Was just helping a neighbor setup the new tablet he bought. Not sure why older people want to buy technology they have no idea how to operate. It results in lots of calling me to come over and fix something that only takes a few seconds. Anyway, he says he wants to watch regular TV on it. Tried to explain the internet isn't like cable. Then they look at you and say, "But, it's the internet. It can do everything right." LOL
So I go to Pluto TV and DL the app. As it'd installing I am lightly humming the theme from Mission Impossible, still installing, mind you. Before a search line comes up it automatically loads every MI title on Pluto. I guess my hum pitch was just accurate enough for it to make that connection.
So I go to Pluto TV and DL the app. As it'd installing I am lightly humming the theme from Mission Impossible, still installing, mind you. Before a search line comes up it automatically loads every MI title on Pluto. I guess my hum pitch was just accurate enough for it to make that connection.
I don't care how "good" it is or how good it will become, AI gives me the creeps. I can't see that changing, even if it makes beautiful music. Hey Siri, go soak your head.
tfarny
Poster Extraordinaire
I think about this sometimes - and it's more complicated than just that. AI has a huge database of information that informs it as it creates new things - terrible songs, standard rejection letters, pictures of elves and wizards. But it's drawing upon these sources, not duplicating them. In that sense at least, it's really the same as what people do.
If "plagiarism" means merely basing your original thing on the things that have gone on before, then The Blues is in for a world of lawsuits!
It should be clear to anyone who has worked with AI that they are not in any way a credible source of information - along with a lot of good info there will be some percentage of stuff that is completely made up, BS, whatever you want to call it. AI nerds call it "hallucinating" which is pretty kind, really.
archtop_fjk
Tele-Afflicted
As long as “AI” systems fail to provide references to the information they
Harsh. Add a Cookie Monster counterpoint to the mumble-rap and bring the end of civilisation.
I have listened to AI generated music, mostly out of curiosity.
While impressive as a feat in and of itself, muzak moves me not. 'AI does Beethoven!' No. No it doesn't. AI does a pastiche. 'AI does \m/ metal!' Closer, but no cigar. 'AI does jazz!' well, that's a loose term to begin with. the 'jazz' thing I stumbled upon -could- have been a Zappa track.
It was no Davis or Brubeck. Coleman wasn't to be heard. Milt Jackson kept his vibes. The Bird remained roosted.AI does an approximation. A fast food variant of a chunk of formulaic connections. Add cheese to taste.
However, given the targeted, formulaic, autotuned, time-aligned, ADHD targeted wash of forgettable electron death that is created today by humans at computers, it does get close.
I'm a Luddite, born and bred. Strong in the arms and thick in the head. I admire the genius of the technology, but remain wary of the product.
tfarny
Poster Extraordinaire
I was making the case that humans "taking inspiration from" work that has gone before is pretty similar in some ways to what these AI programs are doing. Artists look at a lot of art before they start making art! It all goes into the noggin and influences what comes out. And human artists don't generally provide "references" either and don't particularly feel the need to. It's interesting times we live in - I don't have any answers, just trying to look at this stuff from a variety of viewpoints.
I get your point but feel there may be a step missing if I could add.
When a human absorbs art influences and has a go themselves, they normally include their own slant on it, or creative stamp on it it. This can be either conscious or subconscious, bit it is a human interpretation. When AI writes a piece, it is a approximation of everything that has come before, searched by an algorithm.
In other words, when a human fills in the blank spots, they create something new, mistakes and all, with an emotional connection.
Is it me or does AI rock music all sound like Muse?
