New junk appliances

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  1. charlie chitlin

    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I live in a group (sort of commune) situation and there are 11 of us in the house.
    We often use our oven 2x/day.
    Being we cook so much, we sprang for a super deluxe stove that cost over $8k.
    Actually, I voted against spending so much on a new thing, but the maintenance group decided it was time...such is communal living.
    It has already stopped working correctly.
    The oven igniter went.
    The repair guy tells me the manufacturer figures you will use your oven TWO TIMES A WEEK, so this igniter is made to last 4 years, not 8 months.
    It's a $145 part.
    I find this totally appalling.
    How did we ever get to accept this...or be expected to accept this?
    I tell the repair guy, I want one you can just light with a match.
    He says...impossible...you can't get one.
    What do you mean?
    Nobody MAKES one.
    I don't give a F what they MAKE and don't make...I'll find a good used one.
    He was so totally perplexed by this, I had to end the conversation.
    He couldn't even grasp the concept of finding a good old stove where the gas comes out when you twist the knob and you light the freakin' burner.
    I'd rather cook with wood than have an oven that stops working every few months and I can't even bypass the problem and light it with a match.
    We're getting very stupid, brothers and sisters...
     
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    Igniters are notoriously low-life devices.

    It seems to me that if you spent that kind of money on the appliance that the warranty should cover it. Certainly there is warranty documentation. I'd try going above the repair guy's head and contact the manufacturer.
     
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    i purchased one of those moderately expensive ninja blenders last year. total junk. it lasted exactly one year. companies build things just long enough to run out the warranty these days.
     
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    On the bright side it only $13/person for the part o_O
     
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    Build yourself a wood burning oven - plenty of info on the interweb with youtube videos and stuff.
     
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    Poke around the Internet ... What was quoted as $65-$95 a couple of places was $24 at another. That's what I ordered. Ten minute replacement. Stove works great, all burners.

    If you find a good price .. buy two of them and put the second in a ziplock bag in the back of the oven trinkets drawer.

    Gas stove I have is a Whirlpool from 1998.

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    What brand is the range?. I've worked in appliances for over 30 years and some of the most expensive appliances are pure junk. There's also no reason for an igniter to go out that fast, even cheap ranges have them last for 10 even 15 years or more. They are sensitive if you have a spillover, or if water gets into the control knob. In fact the stovetop igniters usually go out before the oven igniter does.
     
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    Or you could buy a real stove that will last virtually forever like I did. The warming oven was such a great invention lost in today's world. IMG_2823.JPG
     
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    I want one of these:

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    Man am I seeing this more and more with appliances.

    I remember we had this old Olive Green refrigerator that went from our house in MO to the house in AR, then to the house in TX and then up to the house in OK over the course of about 18 years while I was a kid. We would decorate the new house to match the fridge.

    I have lived in TX now for just over six years. My fridge stopped working about two months after I got down here, I figured it was some damage from the move. Bought a new fridge for like $2K and it worked for three and a half years. We just went and bought another new fridge for $2500 and I hate it and am wondering when it is going to die.

    It is the weirdest things, appliances used to last forever and your car broke about every four years. Now the appliances last four years and your car last forever.
     
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    Better run outside and tell those clouds to get off of your lawn.
     
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    And so are the designers who build them to fail... :twisted:
     
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    Was it a commercial unit? Cooking for that many people, a good commercial one is probably less than a really nice consumer unit, and it’s longer-lasting and more repairable. When I sold commercial kitchen equipment, communes and colonies were great customers.
     
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    I find gas stoves that require electricity to work, very annoying.
    No clock on my stove is fine thanks.
    Why does a stove need a clock????

    But have you actually tried lighting it with a match?
    The gas won't come on if the ignighter isn't clicking?
    My stove is 12 years old, cheap, and the ignighters all still work.

    How is igniter spellled?
    Ignite-er?
    Is it even a real word?
    Must be if it costs $145!
     
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    That's one hell of an oven!
     
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    Bluestar is the brand.
    The Viking was failing regularly and the appliance place that we spend a LOT of money with (12 houses) recommended Bluestar.
     
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    I have cooked quite a bit on/in a wood stove. It's tricky, but doable.
    For better or worse, the organization I'm in has a group that makes decisions like this, and I doubt a wood stove would pass muster.
     
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    I went to a store and saw that they had some new ones, they even looked like that.

    On the other hand, I live in the city and would be really pissed off if someone used one of those in the city with the already super stinky air that we have.
     
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    I think the commercial grade suggestion is a good one. It's almost impossible to buy your way out of crappiness when it comes to consumer grade appliances these days. The manufacturers are well aware of the design flaws and failure points, and are also very reluctant to cover repair costs, warranty or not.

    You might need to upgrade your gas supply, and have a proper hood/ventilation system, but I think you'll end up with a much more reliable unit. Restaurants can't afford to have their equipment go down.

    Look at used restaurant equipment places, because restaurants go out of business a lot. You should be able to get a good deal on a solid stove that way.
     
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    We had one of these:

    1952 O`Keefe & Merritt
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    Totally cool stove. The pilots could easily heat an entire house!
    One of the oven doors broke and the only replacement we could find was $500. My wife decided she wanted a brand new, stainless steel monstrosity. Ugh.
    BTW, my pic is from a store selling a stove like ours. $7,200 plus shipping!

    Mark
     
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