New Jaguar Day!

ReverendRevolver

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After a bit of a hunt, and some luck, my jag arrived today.

I'd been after a CAR jg66. None were available for reasonable prices.
Also, I'd been digging into research on the horror stories regarding the setup and using the tremolo.

Randomly, a sunburst '08 mim cp special popped up.

I haven't been into sunburst since high-school. But this one had some sweet red to it. I'd been messaging back and forth about prices on a 60s lacquer and a bit high priced jg66.
The sunburst one wasn't even a model on my radar, but the pictures had a cool red thing going on in the burst. Price was listed at about the "lowest" the other people said they were willing to go. And even though it was in Canada, Shipping was listed a bit lower.

So I shot the guy a message asking about what his lowest would be, and stating that sunburst wasn't even on my list of things to consider, but I liked the reds in his.

I got an offer shot back with a message about it looking better in person but being hard to get in pictures. His offer was $150 lower than going tlrate on that model, about $200 lower than the other ones I was considering.
And free Shipping.

I didn't want burst. But this one was more reds than brown or yellow/orange. So I wanted this specific burst. But I wanted a red jag. Didn't i?
I was at war with myself about pulling the trigger. Reviews indicated this bridge setup was pretty great. Opinions on pickups were divideI?

I caved.

It got here today.
Haven't ran it through anything but the living room amp so far. Jury is still out in the pickups until it goes through the 5e5, Frenzel and big Fender. Because that's the screening process. (Bootstrap isn't taking orders currently, I've got time). Both circuits work as they should, as does the strangle switch.

It's set up with 11s. Now, I run 10-48s on my 24" stuff. But this is set up spot on, not much more tension, stays in tune working the trem (both ways). So imma keep it with 11s. 0 ambition to have it to stay with this action and a working trem.
But that red, it's hard to get in pictures. 20230330_180828.jpg 20230330_180835.jpg 20230330_180927.jpg 20230330_180855.jpg 20230330_180843.jpg

Only issues are loose bottom strap button (I ordered a black levis strap and Schaller style fender locks Saturday that got here Monday) and one gouge (burn?) On the back thst was pictured before I bought it.

A problem that's specific to me is I don't like leaving things stock. Be it the guard, pickup covers, or pickups, something asthetically will need to change in the next couple months. Maybe red covers. Maybe a flat black guard.

I'm excited. Might run it through the Frenzel with the 4×12 tomorrow. (Have to clear a path) This was the last solid body on my "to buy" list.
 

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Very nice. I really like the sunburst on a Jag, and the red and yellows come through nicely in the pictures… but if you decide you really don’t like it, you could maybe paint over it, like Oliver Ackerman has here…
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I'm a big fan of Jazzmasters, but never quite got round to adding a Jaguar. You might like this set up guide - it covers them both.


Michael J Adams knows his way around offsets and his YouTube channel has a lot of useful info.

 

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Congrats on the Cool Jag! I personally love sunburst so that looks really nice to me. I've got a Mod Shop Jag in Olympic White with a 4-Way Toggle switch instead of the slider switch (It's the one thing I don't like about Jags) .

Happy NGD!
 

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I'm a big fan of Jazzmasters, but never quite got round to adding a Jaguar. You might like this set up guide - it covers them both.


Michael J Adams knows his way around offsets and his YouTube channel has a lot of useful info.

This one's (luckily) already setup pretty nice.

I will be checking out that channel though. Can't ever know too much, and this is the first guitar I've had possession of with a non-strat trem since I'd borrowed my grandfathers mustang for a few months 11 years back. (And I didn't use the stick on his, just grabbed that metal hotdog thing).

I'm kinda annoyed I waited so long to get one. I love my teles, but this thing feels more normal than mustang/duosonic bodied guitars. I used to love heavier guitars. I never stopped, it's just that everything I've bought between my first tele in the mid 00s and now have been lighter than my previous "normal ".
 

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Congrats on the Cool Jag! I personally love sunburst so that looks really nice to me. I've got a Mod Shop Jag in Olympic White with a 4-Way Toggle switch instead of the slider switch (It's the one thing I don't like about Jags) .

Happy NGD!
I love the sliders. Not 100% sold on the strangle switch, but the neck circuit is a huge plus for me, and part of why jag shopping was tricky.
Strangle switch becoming s/p switch might happen if that's even possible.
 

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Congrats! The search is over (orrrrr....over-ish) and the journey begins! Welcome to the best shimmer tremelo ever invented.

Mike Adams aka Puisheen is somewhat controversial in some parts of the offset world - but he does know his stuff when it comes to Fender Offset set ups. He is ***Really*** good with setting up a floating bridge and going through the gotchas involved in doing so.

On the plus side - IIRC - The CP model has an angled neck pocket (mostly eliminates need for shims) and the trem route is closer to the bridge for more break angle over the bridge.
 

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I'm still a bit shocked at how good the action is.
I'm proud of how good I got the action on my Mustang, but this is pretty close to consistent all the way down the neck.
I know (front reading complaints from when these came out) people didn't like the trem placement, bridge, or neck pocket.

But that's nonsense, because it works. The bridge is sorta gibson style, with notched rollers fir each string. Now, I'm not sure something thicker than 11s would stay in the fat E slot, but after reading horror stories of jag setups, whatever was done on this model was a good idea.

I'm wondering when the new guitar "play it because it's new" stage wears off if I'll only be grabbing this and the tele.
 

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Nice score!

I’ve been jonesing for a Jaguar ever since I saw Calexico last year. Brian Lopez had a beat up blue Jag into a some kind of a custom tweed Deluxe, and his rig sounded incredible.

This video isn’t the best showcase for the tone, but at least you can see the Jaguar.
 
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It appears as though mines been modded. Watched a review based on WingedWords
Suggested youtube channel, and Adam's gripes hard about t-o-m bridges on Jags.
Closeup shows ye Ole metal wedge style LP tune o matic saddles on the stock model he is trying out.
Mine, with its shockingly on point setup has this thing:
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Rollers!

In my research concerning adding a Bigsby to a tele (that I never did because I'd spent the dough elsewhere and made due with a fixed bridge this whole time) I determined that minimizing friction where it's not supposed to be decreased stability issues in trem systems. So while a 'Stang, jm/jag, or b16 all rely on a shim and elevated bridge/pickups to nail a perfect setup and full usage of the wiggle stick, a regular LP style bridge can raise, but not appropriately keep the pressure while letting the strings move without hopping the slot.
If the bridge itself doesn't move, then those smooth chrome saddles on a mastery bridge, or Rollers seem to be the answer. I don't think the original style screw threads are as good a design as a Mustang bridge to accomplish the exact same thing, but having the proof in my possession that a fixed bridge can work on a jag, I can state that Rollers are viable.

Anyone scared of a jag because if the trem, there are solutions. I'd rather pay a shop to do a setup, even knowing what makes something work doesn't matter as much as experience shimming a neck pocket while adjusting a heel situated truss rod.

Also, from another video I'd seen, the same guy bends behind the bridge to imitate pedal steel sounds. I've tried doing this for ages, squeezing behind the nut, without much success (I still do behind the nut stuff on teles, sparingly).
It is achievable on a jag. (Said review is used to traditional trem placement, complains of tension. He also uses a pick, and even though I respect that the technique is "his" idea, I'm a less"good" player than he is, and can on the fly with essentially no practice make the sound with my ring finger, or use ring and middle on different strings simultaneously. I can't use a pick, can't even do hybrid, but my fingers are stronger because of it I guess?)

Mods are a ways out. Guard and possibly pick-up covers/trem tip color swap.

I'm vain.
Strangle switch stays until I've ran it through paces in the big amps and with effects.
I use delay and an ABY box with my band, this guitar may see recording time with the band, but isn't just for that setup. (My green tele is, and would've been reqired indefinitely until it did everything I wanted with that specific setup). So I'll see how the Strangle works with my big Fender and with an actual board before passing judgment. Gotta be fair and run it with drippy reverb not available in my other amps, since it was so readily adopted by surf musicians.
 
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