New Fender Deluxe and Twin 100% Digital....

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by KnopflerStyle, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. ASATKat

    ASATKat Friend of Leo's

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    Good luck with that. As long as it complements your mojo.
     
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    I look forward to your report.
    I'm interested in the Twin and soon as it hits my local shop,I'll be trying it out.
     
  3. KnopflerStyle

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    Cool. Real guys playing that thing, is what we need here...
     
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    Yeah maybe it's a bit more viable in the US. As I say though, for the UK market it translates to about $250 more than what you'd pay in the US, which makes it less appealing on this side of the pond.
     
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    A 65 Twin reissue retails at $1450.

    I’d view $450 lower retail for the Tonemaster Twin as a pretty significant difference.
     
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    Would be cool to see a Princeton version, with a switch for higher clean headroom - 'Princeton' and 'Deluxe' modes.
     
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  7. Lef T

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    In Canada we're going to be about $300 more for the Twin.
    Not great exchange rates at the moment,but my interest is still high on the Twin.
    Who knows?
    By the time these amps hit the stores,there may be a little wiggle room on the price.
     
  8. ASATKat

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    Get a Katana,
     
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  9. Lef T

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    Never heard of it !
     
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    Fine then, get a Blackstar ID Core 100.
     
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    This video pretty much reveals the difference between a tube amp and it's digital approximation:

    Sadly, kind of what I expected ... I would have loved it if they'd have found the holy grail.
     
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    Unfortunately, I don't think that video reveals much of anything. He doesn't really duplicate the same riffs and licks for each amp (for all pickup and clean vs. OD settings), and by a certain point (~8:23 onward), he's just playing the Tone Master version.

    And I typically hate to be a critic of the skills of a demo player, but that guy's chops are pretty poor, IMO.

    ...For the parts where they are toggling back and forth between the two with some similar licks going on, the sonic differences that I hear seem likely to be due to two different types of speakers, with the ceramics in the TRRI sounding a bit brighter in comparison. So I'd argue that the neo speakers in the Tone Master are only going to sound dark if anyone goes to the trouble to A/B the two, which is irrelevant if you're using this thing at a gig. So that makes one brighter and the other darker. That's where the flexibility of the tone controls come into play.
     
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    I would agree .
     
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    I'll be trying them out. My Blues Cube Artist converted me to the digital/modeling world and a lightweight twin would be a dream come true and great compliment to my BCA.

    I know, I know, it's impossible to duplicate a tube amp blah blah blah.

    Yeah, we can put artificial hearts in people and launch a guy into space, but somehow 70 year old amp technology is science's final frontier.
     
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    Agreed.
    I've tried out the Stage and the BCA and they are excellent amps that changed my view on Solid State.
    I'm looking forward to the Twin because I lean a little more to the blackface sound.
    I really hope it delivers and I have a feeling it will.
    I'd like to use a Boss DD 200 paired with the OD 200 and I'd have all the effects I needed in a very compact pedalboard.
     
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    I hear something else here: A slight comb filtering effect in the tone of the digital amp. So far I heard that in every digital amp I tried. Maybe digital artifacts?
    And I'm not a tube snob and I'd love the idea of a 30 lbs twin ...
     
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    mmmm.... poor demo
     
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    for those prices I want more effects options and amp models.I know thats not the point of these but still....
     
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    It sure is. And this is much more revealing IMHO. When he (kind of poorly) plays similar licks through the tube and the digital amp the difference in sound quality is much more obvious than in the anderton's video in which Pete's great playing can kind of fool us into liking anything.
    I will go to the store as soon as they hit it anyway to find out for myself.
     
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    the fender guys are really crapping on the mustang tech when talking about these amps..its rather funny.
     
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