New Fender Deluxe and Twin 100% Digital....

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by KnopflerStyle, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. KnopflerStyle

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    I thinks its a great idea. Something new in something that looks classic and great... its a combination that never fails.

    Great idea.
     
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    I can't find anything about them other than this clip. When will they be released?
     
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    Me want.
     
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    A single channel modeling amp - I´m curious who´ll pay the prices for these amps :confused:
     
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    $900, me no want no more.

    @$600 maybe
     
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    I have a Vox Valvetronix amp that is in my vacation home (for summer use). It's worth every penny I paid for it -- because I got it free from someone who wanted the weighs-a-tone, sounds crappy monster out of their home. I has 8 amp models built in, each one an exaggerated caricature of a classic amp. You have to tweak everything to get it to sound decent, and even then there are only a few settings that actually sound good. Maybe Fender will do it better, but it's important to understand that a modeler is only s good as the the modeling created, not the amp being modeled. I love mine because it sucks so terribly that it's funny.Some of the metal amps it models sound more like a sheet metal fabrication shop.
     
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    why do they need a standby switch?
     
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    Allow me to be the first to open-mindedly say...BLASPHEMY!

    Fender shouldn't stain these great amps' names with all-digital/modeling associations.

    Yes, all-digital/modeling amps can be worthwhile, fun, someone's fave, etc., etc. But let something great and classic not be used to try to pass off something inherently less-so as being in the same type and class as the great and classic things.

    Fender's a business, sure. But some businesses are also trustees.

    Call them the Fender Klatuu and the Fender Klatuu Whopper, or something like that, instead.
     
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    I would guess for the majority of home players, this would have plenty of appeal - lower price point, lower weight, never a tube to replace, etc...

    Modeling gets better and better, and these might end up being pretty sweet - but I kind of love and appreciate the dinosaurs that I play -

    For me...I’ve learned and acquired what I like -
     
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    It is interesting that Fender is still tweaking the Twin Reverb platform. It seems so many people want smaller amps for ease of transport I suppose. Sure this Digital Twin is light, but it's still 2x12 and same dimensions correct? Is the Twin not the most re-issued amp ever across all the years. Think bout all the models from the 50s' to today. The Twin Reverb amp, Fender won't seem to let go even when the market seems to dictate otherwise.
     
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    I have to say I am totally baffled by this concept.

    I'm not anti-digital, and I don't have any issue with Fender making a digital Twin Reverb/Deluxe. What I don't understand is making digital amps that cripple the benefits of digital modeling in a package that is about the same price you could pay for the original tube amps.

    Here's a concept for a digital Twin Reverb that actually makes sense to me:

    - Same styling and controls on front panel -- I agree with that!
    - Backpanel controls to select the following:
    Twin models -- 1) Narrow Panel Tweed, 2) Blackface 3) Silverface 4) red knob/Evil
    Reverb -- 1) 63 2) 65 3) plate (just like their Tre-Verb pedal)
    Dwell control
    Tremolo -- 1) opto 2) bias 3) HM (again just like the Tre-Verb)
    Speaker emulation for line out 1) JBL 2) Jensen 3) 15" 4) 417-8c Others?
    Digital signal out 24/96khz
     
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    Interesting, this feels a little bit like they're trying to erase the difference between tubes and not-tubes in the mind of the younger generation by using the same cosmetics and controls, and leaving out the digital looking stuff. It's a few hundred cheaper, much lighter, LOOKS like a cool vintage amp, and if it really sounds the same, what's not to like? Of course that is always the big question...
     
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    So you want a Mustang amp, but with fewer options, and that has most of the controls on the back panel?
     
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    I thought that was weird too... from what I read though, I'd guess it just mutes the speaker output for when you just want to use the DI.
     
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    The only reason to consider buying one of these would be if its vastly cheaper than its tube counter part. If Fender prices these even remotely close to the tube amps they will doom the whole line. If they raise the price of the tube line, they’ll doom both. Guitar players will climb over 20 of these to buy one equally priced tube amp.
    I hope they sound and feel like the originals, and are a GOOD value.

    Edit: At $900 for the Deluxe, forget it and I’m in the market for that amp. I can buy a DRRI for that easily.
     
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    I haven't watched the video, or read the article yet, but isn't this like Fender's version of the Blues Cube? Single channel digital/modeling amp?
     
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    Digital amps in bold new graphics!
     
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    I too am interested in the amp, even though I'm not usually a fan of digital modeling amps. I am also not too interested in the price, mainly because I already have stuff I like a lot, and not that much money to try something new at that cost. Maybe someday though.

    Looks neat!
     
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