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New Design Proto Build - Lyra

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by preeb, May 16, 2019.

  1. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    First maple Lyra is complete.
    Tone exceeds my expectations and it is quite overwhelming. I don't want to sound like a stupid 12 year old so I'd better shut up now and get some videos soon so you can share the magic. It is magic.

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    More photos...

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    6stringcowboy Friend of Leo's

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    Your work is exquisite.
     
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    Congrats Gil!
     
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    Always loved Gil Yaron build threads!
     
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    Definitely Chimey. If I had been listening to it blindfolded, I would've thought you were playing a Steel Guitar or Reso. It's more apparent on the high strings.
    It sounded like the player was using a pick, does it sound just as chimey finger style?
     
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    I was playing soft finger style with no pick and no fingernails. Amp was set to the lowest input gain and flat eq (lots of treble for a Marshall) to get the cleanest guitar output without any push or character from the amp which is close to a direct plugin.
    When played normally she sounds... Well... Normal. I did that to demonstrate the balance and articulation.
    I will post a video soon.
     
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    real nice all around, is the case custom or off the shelf?
     
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    Can I borrow it? :)

    Looks and sounds awesome Gil!
     
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    Can't wait for the other video. Fingerstyle instead of pick? Shows what I know.:p Definitely has the articulation.
     
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    Thx Scatter.
    Custom padding to fit the body snugly
     
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    Thx Ricky
     
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    Oh my, that neck pick up sounds sublime and the sustain is sensational.

    Bravo Maestro!!
     
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    That's a very inspiring pair of instruments and they sound lovely. Thanks for documenting everything!
     
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    The real video will be done by Pete Thorn soon enough. I do not have the means to do a proper clip with my cell phone (-;
     
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    Thanks! Those guitars are magic... I spent many hours with both and made some last tweaks to bring them to perfection.
    Will post more info shortly
     
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    Some changes made after playing and messing with it for a while.
    The first thing I noticed is that the floating top really does make a huge difference. So much so that it sounded closer to a hollow body than a solid.. which is a great thing because I can now balance between the two by adjusting the sound post and adding another sound post on the bass side to transfer some of the vibrations down to the core.

    I want to do this in a way that will allow for adjustment and going back and forth between full floating top (think ES-175) to a semi hollow tone (think late 50's ES-335).

    As I adjusted the treble side sound post I noticed that it does it's job but even when tightened all the way down to the core the tone was still a bit too hollow.
    I believe it is due to the fact I didn't want to add a bass bar but I took that option into consideration and here's the solution.

    I made a longer ABR post

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    and replaced the bass side post so I can adjust it all the way down into full contact with the Mahogany core

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    Now I can install the ABR anywhere between full float (touching only the top for fully hollow tone) and full contact down to the Mahogany core (semi hollow tone)


    The other issue I noticed was the lack of room to adjust the string height thumbwheel further down (due to the 2 thumbwheels of the system) so I shaved the ABR-1 ends down to allow a wider range of action setting.

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    The lowest position is almost touching the top

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    and the normal low playing action now looks like this

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    The Mahogany Lyra proto is pretty much identical to the maple model with the exception of the dressing and a slight change to the Lyra PAF.
    I went for a classic nickel hardware and gold knobs for the bursted maple build because.. we.. it looks "right" to most including my old self (-;
    but for the burnt cherry Mahogany I wanted something else...

    The hardware theme will be black with Nickel. I don't want to do a black out thing as it looks childish and "dead" but a mix will look wonderful. I think.

    Black chrome tuners with Nickel ferrules

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    Bridge set up is now identical to the revised version showed above on the maple top build. It works very well!
    I made the ABR ears even thinner this time to allow for more adjustment... it can't hurt (-;

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    Plastics are going to be black.

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    ABR is the revised type with even thinner ears fore more adjustment range.

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    knobs are vintage tinted celluloid nitrate with black paint

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    PU's are the Lyra PAF's with two differences,
    1) the slugs are adjustable and I make the threaded slugs from the same material as my standard slugs so there's no tone difference

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    2) I wanted the covers off look to get the black bubbins show but I still wanted it covered. Problem is that the Black chrome plated covers are slightly magnetic and this works against the design to I made them with 12 holes (-; since there are 12 holes now and the slugs are exposed I decided to add the adjustable slugs

    So I still get the covers off look with the black color and the 12 holes but I also have a cover to protect and shield the PU

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