New Country Music?

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Money its all about money - if it did not sell they would not do it.
Old Country Music...........they'd do it for nothing........they did! For pure joy.
Like NASCAR, in the beginning, when there was a bunch of drunk rednecks they did it for "braggin' rights" and honor. Then they started gettin' "crumbs", then Hollywood Came to town and Politics...........
Same with music.........and they effing ruined it.........'bout the same thing.....
 

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if you were told to make music to sell advertising during the morning and evening commute to southern women who came of age in college in 2010 and want to remember what that felt like, what would you do?

Honestly, at this point I'd be really worried about loosing my job.
A problem with Nashville over the last few years, the number of popular female artists is at an all time low. I seem to remember a couple of years ago when for the first time in country music history...there wasn't one single female singer on the Billboard Top 20 charts. Nashville seems to be pushing the "lowest common denominator" theory in marketing and production to such an extreme, that current pop music & hip-hop seems extremely varied by comparison.
This guy does a YouTube channel I really like, his explanations of why this and that aspect of country music isn't rooted in "I just don't like it, because I just don't like it", he explains why everything to be banal carbon copies of the worst elements of country music coming from Nashville these days.


Funny enough the "Hair Metal" thread from a couple of weeks ago, is so reflective of current country music...in particular "Bro" and "Boyfriend" country. It's a bad Spinal Tap parody, the guys look ridiculous, to call the song's subject matter merely stupid is a compliment. I really didn't like a lot of pop country in the 80's, but the sound varied. Artists did sound different from one another. Now they look like clones who look like they just did an Axe body spray commercial & content wise come across as a group of idiots who had to hire a team of tutors to pass the GED on the 10th attempt.
 
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Like I say all the time, if it ain't got a fiddle and steel guitar, it ain't country music..........
Another B R O A D generalization that isn't true.
Old Country Music...........they'd do it for nothing........they did!..........
Maybe they did in the beginning of their careers but none of the country legends would have been able to keep playing music "for nothing" for long. Bills have to get paid.

There’s still good music out there but I lost interest as country artists began choosing sides.
Sides about what? You dislike both "sides?"

Honestly, at this point I'd be really worried about loosing my job.
A problem with Nashville over the last few years, the number of popular female artists is at an all time low. I seem to remember a couple of years ago when for the first time in country music history...there wasn't one single female singer on the Billboard Top 20 charts.............
That may have been the case a few years ago but there are plenty of female new country artists now
 

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For some context, here's a quote from an interview with Commander Cody from 1974...

Look at Charlie Rich. There's a perfect example of product personality-he's been hanging around for years and years, right?

SUN: And always been good.

CC: And he's always been good, and see, he's a piano player, dig, and he doesn't play piano on his current records, because even though he's one of the best piano players in the country, they won't let him play piano because it's not his image.
 

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No matter what genre, everyone has opinions on what is good and credible. I have them too. I prefer to not live in the past. I gauge a song by what it has to say not neccesarily how it sounds. Some songs can be interpreted 6 ways of Sunday. I give the new country artists credit as they are doing a lot more than me. Some of them sing about a "country life" that does not exist. The Dixie Chicks sang about murdering an abusive husband. The Band sang about getting a Martin Guitar fixed in The Weight. John Hiatt sang about guitar players thrashing their instruments on stage. I have no idea what Jason Aldean was singing about. I think Miranda Lambert is an authentic artist. I may not like all of Corb Lund's catalogue but he is authentic and believes in his songs.

What is my point? I don't want to hear old songs and I don't want to hear new songs. I just want to hear good songs by artists/bands that are authentic and real.

By the way...Happy New Year to all.
 

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The new country music isn't country music. Know why? Because I say so.
James Burke said there about, "In the absence of truth, the truth is what you want it to be".
We've seen a lot of that in recent years in all sorts of situations.

"What is my point? I don't want to hear old songs and I don't want to hear new songs. I just want to hear good songs by artists/bands that are authentic and real."
Well said johnny7!
 
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1. I did not tune in to that extravaganza.

2. I *did* search on youtube for some excerpts, and I personally would not call either of the ones I found "country music" though it should be acknowledged that I am no expert in country, or any other kind of, music.

3. But--where in "New Year's Eve Live: Nashville's Big Bash" does the word country appear?
 

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if country music = the music of people who live in the country, then the music can change and it will still be country music

if country music = a style and tradition of music with fiddles and steel guitar, etc, then that style can be played by anyone, even city people and people from other lands

classic country music players and fans, just like anyone with a culture worth passing down, always has a fight on its hands, but up till twenty years ago or so, that fight was more like playing touch football

now people are picking a fight with country music, and it's not friendly

so you have to go looking
 

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My daughter in law texted me to tune in to “New Years Eve live Nashville’s Big Bash”. It truly had nothing to do with country music. These artists were terrible. It is hard to believe that this is what country music has deteriorated to. Sorry for the old man rant.
a number of years ago..when this "new country" music started up..it sounded more to me like old rock n roll mostly..not that there's anything wrong with it if it's yer bag
 

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if country music = the music of people who live in the country, then the music can change and it will still be country music

if country music = a style and tradition of music with fiddles and steel guitar, etc, then that style can be played by anyone, even city people and people from other lands

classic country music players and fans, just like anyone with a culture worth passing down, always has a fight on its hands, but up till twenty years ago or so, that fight was more like playing touch football

now people are picking a fight with country music, and it's not friendly

so you have to go looking
i got no problems with country music..it may not be my genre but..some of the best guitar pickers i've ever heard have been country players..:)
 

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I needed this thread - I am no country expert - I was born in LA in 1965 and would call myself a Topanga Canyon Cowboy - I love the Byrds, Burrito Brothers, Linda Rondstadt, Eagles, the Commander and NRPS. I listen to mostly singer/songwriter and alt-country or whatever. But I heard a song the other day that so offended me I felt like punching something - I won't waste the time looking up his name, but the song was "Country as F." It isn't the language - I swear prodigiously. It is that it is such low ball, bs, cliched garbage. The fake C-rapping, the swearing to be tough, the 30 pack of cheap beer...everything about that song is more than wrong, it's bad for people. Whoever that guy is, I hope he gets thrown hard from a horse. Yeah, I'm from LA, but that don't mean I don't ride...
 

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To clarify-I know that there are great country artists, just few to none on current country radio or TV. It’s another case of people dumbing down a genre to provide more mass appeal. The only good thing is that they are still playing guitars (Teles!).

Kudos to you for having the endurance to actually watch it! I tried, once, several years ago and to this day I still can't get what I saw/heard outta my head...o_O:confused: Ok.... back to my Porter Wagner and Conway songs ;)
 

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Great question and I'd like to read the OP's answer. My guess it would be like someone's response to "What is pornographic?" I'll know it when I see it!

Millions of people like new country, artists like Luke Bryan, Morgan Wallen, Jimmie Allen, etc. and buy their records, or download them. Country music is more popular than ever.


True! Would Hank Williams or Loretta Lynn have kept making records if they couldn't make a living doing it?


They probably wouldn't have had the opportunity to make more records if they didn't sell, but I'm pretty sure they'd have kept making music.
 




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