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New cars to avoid

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by kelnet, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. kelnet

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    BMW at number one.
     
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    Fiat-Chrysler sure dominates the list.
     
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    The article starts out by stating "the evolution in styling and technological breakthroughs... have literally reinvented the automobile during the last quarter millennium."

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    That's a pretty low bar - a quarter millennium ago this was still four years in the future!
     
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    That's a real "ouch" for the 7 series.

    No car I'd consider buying is on the list.
     
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    If you're put off by things like "limited passenger comfort, harsh and erratic ride and handling abilities and excessive wind noise" it should be pretty obvious that a Wrangler is not for you.
     
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    Maybe for a pair of jeans but not for a car.
     
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    Wow... I never would have thought that the econo box cars don't have great power and acceleration... I question some of the statements in the Nissan teuck review as well.
     
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    Agreed, but a Jeep Wrangler is not a car and should not be compared to one any more then a Ford F150 should.

    Horses for courses, do the same test only instead of the highway try a stretch of backwoods or desert canyons and then the results change a bit.

    Now those other two poor excuses for a Jeep should be dropped off a cliff with the executive who approved them inside!

    We love our Jeeps in my family, including both of the Liberties my daughter has/does own.
     
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    Only on the myopic/partisan TDPRI does that list garner a "wow- lotta Chrysler vehicles on there", when in fact there are 6 Japanese cars.

    I know the words "Camry" and "Sentra" have always sent hearts fluttering around here but - really ?


    To be fair and impartial, the two Lincolns on there have been known to be dogs (besides their dated-from-the-get-go styling) since day one - not really news.


    To be even more fair and impartial may I reiterate my utter disdain and lack of engineering respect for any Ford Focus from 2011-present.

    Avoid.

    First it was just the auto trans but then I saw numerous ones either stuck or getting stuck in piddly amounts of snow last winter or two.

    Horrid vehicles.

    The 1998-2010 ones ? Great cars. You'll still see them on the road for years to come.
     
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    Yeah what kind of ***** wants a quiet, comfortable car that handles well?
     
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    Hey my work car is on the list! A Nissan Titan (Navara in Australia). Yup, she's pretty damn agricultural.
     
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    I'll stick with my Subaru.
     
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    The iconic Jeep, IMHO, is all but dead. The Wylis, CJ, & TJ are true Jeeps.msorry, but I'm not a fan of square headlights.
    If I wanted a vehicle that didn't ride rough, get poor gas mileage, & was a blast to drive I would bought anything else

    Fist taking over Chrysler is the death knell

    Full disclosure; my daily drive (not counting the work van) is a 2006 TJ w/ the 4.0 & 6 speed manual. Running 31x10.5x15 with 15x8 Pro Comp 1069s
     
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    There are plenty of choices if that's what you want. Me? I like being able to drop the top and leave the doors in the garage. I also enjoy driving on the beach and playing in the mud.

    The rough highway manners and noise? I consider those to be enabling features.
     
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    We haven't seen Fiat's take on the Wrangler yet. Even the rumor mill hasn't produced much that sounds reliable. The JK is an MB era design. I've owned a YJ, a TJ and now a JK. The JK is my least favorite of the 3. It's too big, too complicated and too car like. The YJ was great except that the top was bit of a pain. The TJ was just about perfect.

    That being said, I think that the Chrysler brands are developing better product now than they did under Benz. And of course they were pretty stagnant under Cerebus. I would love to see them follow the path set by Mazda with the new Miata and Chevy with the Camaro. Go smaller, lighter and simpler. We'll see before too long.
     
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    The Camry and Sentra are both built in North America. The idea of foreign cars v. domestic is a relic from another time.
     
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    Our 2008 Avalon we bought used is a torture chamber , the front seats are pure pain. We are bitterly disappointed. Fortunately I was a member of CU at the time and I trashed that car's fatal flaw. Awesome everything else but passenger comfort sucks
     
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    Bought a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara in February. Everything I wanted and more. Didn't buy it for the comfy ride or quiet interior. It's a killer vehicle to own if you use it as it was intended. Will hold it's value just fine.

    My 4 door is not a rock climber but it goes off road and through the creeks just fine. Hard top or convertible or soft top.
     
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