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- Jun 21, 2011
If Earl Scruggs couldn't get Lester Flat to play an e minor instead of major in Foggy Mountain Breakdown, well...
E minor would be the proper chord for Foggy Mountain.If Earl Scruggs couldn't get Lester Flat to play an e minor instead of major in Foggy Mountain Breakdown, well...
Something is not adding up.They do use iPads, but with there own song sheets. They sent me their song sheet to “If it Hadn’t Been for Love” by the Steeldrivers. At the end of the chorus, there is a place where it goes from Am to F, then quickly F to E, and back to Am. But they are playing it Am, F, Am, E, Am. If you don’t lead into the E from F, it just doesn’t sound right. I’m a big fan of Chris Stapleton (who wrote this one), and I think these subtle nuances make a difference. Am I being too picky?
My post was tongue in cheek. People should at least be open to learning and to correction. I am, I don't always hear things correctly. If our piano player tells me I'm wrong, I usually am.I ran in to this question from two different bands that were playing the wrong chords.
This is insane to me. Who among us hasn't played a part incorrectly for a while (years maybe!) before being shown (or noticing on your own) the correct way? I know I sure have. I can't envision not being excited about, let alone just being open to, learning the little extra thing to make it better.But at the audition rehearsal I noticed that on many of their songs, they aren’t playing the correct chords. These are songs I know pretty well. A couple of times, I mentioned that they were playing the song unlike the original, and showed them the correct chord progression. But they didn’t seem open to “re-learn” their song list, and just wanted me to adapt to their way.
Which is often more difficult than playing a chord you know is wrong.So if it’s just passing chords that may or may not be there, decide if that bugs you. If so, form your own band who will do it the way you hear it.
That reminds me of this scene lolI'm in a very similar situation. Older guy, playing with some other older guys, doing some nice, easy gigs (which I love) that put a little extra beer money in our pockets, etc, and thinking that the ability to find another group like this could be pretty tough. Mostly covers, but a few cool originals.
Interestingly enough, the issue in my band seems to be the other way around; they want to be extremely, microscopically faithful to the original song(s), especially guitar solos. I do work hard to keep the general vibe intact and definitely get the chords right. But I also like the freedom to add my own touches, within reason and in a musically reverent and compatible way with the song, when I'm asked to take a lead. I'd say I play most of the leads about 90% the same as the recorded track, but it still drives me a bit bonkers sometimes when we finish a song and the first thing said is, "hey, on that solo, that middle part should be played like this...", especially when the other guys aren't always nailing their parts note-for-note or beat-for-beat
Anyways, I've ultimately decided that hasn't reached a point to counteract all the good stuff and opportunities it's given me to play and improve, and I assume that it's not a big enough deal that they want to replace me. Every band encounters this thing at some point.
I will say that I never expected an opportunity like this would still be out there....so even if you do leave, I wouldn't give up hope!
That's what I'm saying, Lester used to like to play an E major, while Earl was playing an e minor. Earl even claimed he eventually got so used to Lester playing the E major, he kind of liked it! Shows you what CAN happen!E minor would be the proper chord for Foggy Mountain.
I may never find another band of guys my age who still want to perform.
Because I have ears and I can hear that it's a Gm and not a Bb (like in Midnight Rider).I ran in to this question from two different bands that were playing the wrong chords. They were kind of argumentative, sort of like, "How do you know that the chords are wrong?! What makes you think you are so smart?!"...
They broke up, too, didn't they?If Earl Scruggs couldn't get Lester Flat to play an e minor instead of major in Foggy Mountain Breakdown, well...
Yes, Tab is frequently wrong, often not even in the correct key of the record.Something is not adding up.
I suspect tab. Tab is often wrong....
DOES the band have gigs lined up?I wonder if there is a post on another forum that says, we have this band and there is this new guy who is a great guitarist and cool to be around but he seems to want us to play our covers note for note or at least the “correct way “. We get gigs and people like the band already, should we ditch him for someone else?
Yeah, I kinda feel the same way about drinking, too. Either it's a serious band rehearsal or its a party. They usually can't co-exist.I had an audition last year I thought might be cool for a 2nd band to be in. I got the time.
Well, it started good..but, later they fired up a couple of doobies. I don't care folks
interests, but, not during practice. I guess I am just an old coot. It was just weird.
Not a bad idea as long as the band is (1) actively learning new songs, and (2) is willing to go along with the OP's correct chords..... Now that you're in the picture, perhaps any songs the band learns going forward could be learned the correct way....
Next time say, "It would be even better if you played the right chords!"Both the rhythm player and bass player made compliments about my playing at the end of the rehearsal.
I agree with this. I may have to just be flexible for awhile. Maybe I can influence them on new material.This sounds to me like "letting the perfect be the enemy of the good."
Any person in a band should understand that a band will change any time a lineup changes. Now that you're in the picture, perhaps any songs the band learns going forward could be learned the correct way. Trying to change what they did before you came along is a waste of time and a fight you're definitely going to lose.
It could also be that this band doesn't want to do the songs exactly the same as the original version. There's nothing wrong with that. But if that's the case, this is a bad fit for you.
The real question is do you want to throw your last chance of playing in a band out the window just because these guys don't do things the exact same way you like to do them?