Need help from some country lead guitar players

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by Hendrixlvr, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Elmore

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    Tone down the distortion and for leads, just get in and get out. You are there already. Try playing your leads 3 frets back. For A play in F#. But not blues in F# just straight pentatonic. If you are a slide player that goes over well.
     
  2. Spizzenergi

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  3. El Cavano

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    Very interesting Pentatonic suggestions. Never thought about the theory but:

    Blues -> Minor Pentatonic
    Country -> Major Pentatonic (Minor moved down three frets).

    Great stuff. Thank you!
     
  4. ricach

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    I was wondering this same thing years ago and figured out on my own that if I played my blue notes 3 frets down it worked really well. Never occurred to me till much later I was just playing the Major. :oops:
     
  5. Leon Grizzard

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    That is, the major pentatonic based on each of the chords; C over C, F over F etc., not just one scale all the way through. Add your blues scale notes for spice.
     
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    Tell them you are from TEXAS!

    All Rock and Blues facial contortions MUST be replaced with a Smile.

    Tip your hat to the Ladies and MIND YOUR MANNERS.

    You'll see.
     
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    Don't forget to address everyone as y'all.
     
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    Play the melody.
     
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    Unless you're playing Waylon tunes. Then hit the phaser, and call everybody "Hoss".
     
  10. studio

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    Playing in A?

    do the minor 6th thing mentioned above which would be
    the F# pentatonic for you right? Then concentrate on the
    second box position, that's where you get that opening
    phrase to Johnny B Good.

    Then migrate to your B pentatonic second box position
    (you know, the little pyramid shaped one) and that's
    when you get that Allman Brothers "Southbound" lick
    complete with bends at your discretion.

    Not enough? Do the C major scale and the G major scale
    over that A and try it as a fill then try it in thirds.
    1-3, 2-4, 3-5, 4-6, 5-7, 6-8. Now Chicken Pick it Hoss!
     
  11. El Cavano

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    Best thread ever.

    studio -> Thanks!
     
  12. Hendrixlvr

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    Agreed. Thank you everyone for all your help
     
  13. dmarg1045

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    That's what I was going to say.
     
  14. sir humphrey

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    Follow the chords, play more in major scales but mix up 7ths and 3rds (flat and natural). Use 3rd and 6th interval double stops, bend more "mechanically" with less vibrato, snap the strings, learn how to do banjo rolls, use lots of open strings mixed into your licks, use chromatic runs, learn to fingerpick or hybrid pic, listen to lots of country guitar including Albert Lee, Brent Mason, James Burton and Vince Gill.
     
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    Think major and minor kinda mixed together, but more towards the major. Bend the 2 up to the major 3rd; In A, 3rd string 4th fret, bend to = 6th fret. Make the bend perfectly. Hang a low 7th sometimes. In A, pre-bend 6th string, 3rd fret, up to the 5th fret A note. Pluck and release to "Hang the 7th." Or don't pre-bend, hit it at the 3rd fret, bend it up, and then release it back to the G note.
    Use double and triple stops in your solo lines. Here's a nice double stop bend, again in A, down low. 6th string, 3rd fret with middle finger, and 3rd fret, 5th string with index finger. Bend them both at once, the 6th string bend is a whole step, 2 frets to = A at the 5th fret, G to A. The 5th string bend is a half step bend, 1 fret C to C#.
    Have fun!
     
  16. jmiles

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    Wanna go from, say, A to D? Another double-stop bend. middle finger on 3rd string, 5th fret, and ring finger on 2nd string, 5th fret. Bend both up a whole step to a partial, double-stop, D chord. Actually, I will do this bend with what ever fingers are handy, and depending on what I'm gonna do next... often use ring and pinky..
     
  17. BigDaddyLH

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    We were talking about concise forum notation earlier this week. How about some for this? xxx5(7)5(7)x or xxx5[+2]5[+2]x for this?
     
  18. Mjark

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    Shouldn't this whole thread be over there? I was sort of wondering.
     
  19. chabby

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    Another thing is that there's a lot of styles within country. Or where the guitar is laid down with more of that bass string Bakersfield sound. And open strings - a heckuva lotta open string licks.

    Most of them are partial chord tones, passing tones, mutes, double stops, triplets and pretty structured rhythms and songs. You can play workin man's blues and do a extra verse of lead jam between every verse/chorus etc., passing it around the horn to many different soloists. That's not the way it's recorded usually at least originally. But it can be extended that way. Watched one Guitar-God version done with B. mason. S. Duncan, A. King, Sol P and a few others and it can go on forever that way. With each solo sounding completely different. Which is what I mean by approach - you can Rockabilly country, jazz it and get away with a few dif styles within the style like Roy Nichols did with those little ear bending, almost cartoonish chicken pickin notes he picked up from his background in Jazz. Just depend on the feel.
     
  20. jmiles

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    "How about some for this? xxx5(7)5(7)x or xxx5[+2]5[+2]x "
    Sure! It can be done that way, but I thought my description was fairly clear, and also indicated the easiest fingers to use. I guess my version IS more verbal,,,, in the manner in which I would explain it to a student.
    Do you know of a decent Tab program that I could use?
     
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