Need advice for this strange issue

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  1. screefer

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    This tenor from my previous thread..https://www.tdpri.com/threads/need-new-guitar-advice-is-this-normal.1070290/ sounds nice but very quiet. I thought it was due to bridge placement re 14 frets to the body.

    I go to poke an LED mirror in the hole to see what the bracing is for installing a Schatten or JJB type pick up and there is this block of foam!
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    Google yields nothing so I turn to you folks to, once again, edify me as you did in my previous thread.
    I tried to pull the foam out but it didn't come easy and I don't want to damage the bracing. I can grab it and squish it but has to clear the bracing and I'm chicken.

    Is this normal? If so, what is the function?
    No wonder it is quiet?

    A big pre-thanks
     
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    my guess is that it is for shipping...cut it out in pieces...I would
     
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    This is not normal, I’ve never seen anything like that . It must be removed , it would be like singing with a mouth full of marshmallows
     
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    I yiped it out of there. Pretty tight fit.

    I guess the seller should add 'looking into the sound hole' as one of their inspection routines, eh?
    On the other hand, maybe I should have looked sooner.

    Anyway, night and day... I've got a real Tenor now!

    Big Thanks to leonardo and gardo for straightening me out.
     
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    There should be room to fit a JJB 220 two transducer, eh?
     
  6. Lies&Distortion

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    An attempt by the previous owner to cut feedback? My guess.
     
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  7. screefer

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    It was a brand new unit.
     
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    Oh. Missed that
     
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    That’s better!

    Maybe it was like a permanent do not eat packet.
     
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    I didn't read linked thread.
    That's just weird. Place selling it didn't know it was in there? Oh well, sounds better now
     
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    It's probably crushing protection for transport.... so the top doesn't cave in if a package gets put on it.... or a boot..;)
     
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    Trev is probably right but hows about a heads up to the dealer?

    This here chunk of foam is gonna lose to a boot!!

    Has anyone ever seen this before?
     
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    At Taylor they'd wedge a piece of foam like that into the sound hole to prevent lacquer, buffing compound, and whatnot from getting inside the guitar during the finishing process. Maybe that's what it is.
     
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    No finish on the foam and some wicking of the finish inside the sound hole.
    Bits of sawdust. Maybe I'll rig up an tube attachment to a vacuum cleaner?
    More pix of bracing...

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    That’s incredible
    Glad you found it
     
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    One possibility is that the foam was dampened to raise the humidity in an dry guitar. I do this all the time with a sponge but I put it in a baggie with holes in it. I question the need for internal support if the guitar was in a good hardshell case and that in a good box when it was shipped to you. Otherwise, good catch, enjoy your tenor.

    I install lots of K&K piezo's on the bridge plate, the JJB should work fine
     
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    Maybe QC found a loose brace and used the foam to re-glue it! Bizarre... My best guess is a foam plug during final buffing. They hung the guitar afterward and it slipped out of sight. Then everyone down the line was brain-dead that day. How you could install a set of strings and play it without noticing it is beyond me. I don't think it would do anything to keep the top from crushing.
     
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    Very interesting. They would have to have really crammed it to get it in. A smaller chunk in a baggie would be way easier.

    Thanks for the OK re the piezo.
     
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    My brand new $100 flattop had a wad of crumpled-up newspaper in it the size of a rabbit. Maybe the Guangzhou Chronicle, idk.

    edit- cut a wedge of foam that fits snugly under the string-ends on the headstock. That way, in a close-miked situation, you won't hear the inside-a-piano treble ringing sound if you end a song with a loud strum and mute the strings immediately.

    but - A factory representative might show up at your place asking for the foam cube back - so maybe you shouldn't cut a wedge off from it.
     
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    Tenor...I would want to be measuring that bridge plate in front of the bridge pins. Whether or not a pickup unit will fit will depend on the angle of the x-bracing and the width of that bridge plate.
     
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