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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by rxtech, Sep 15, 2019.
WHOAH!! I guess I’ll wait for that when I get My Macintosh amplifier : )
You can spend very little on a phono pre-amp that is basically a couple of op-amps and a few passives to do the RIAA correction. These can sound very good indeed. The circuit is simple, op-amps are good.
There are hybrids available from Ebay and Amazon which can sound quite good. To me, they're in a 'no-man's land'
There are valve based kits on Ebay that do similar. These cost more, but still less than a 'name' pre-amp. They sound utterly delightful!
For sound, go valve if you can. Then something like a NAD or Linn ( budget? ), then the Pyle as listed earlier.
If you go down the El Cheapo route with valves, double check they quote the RIAA and there is a grounding point on the rear.
These are -very- good.
Rex, ART, the same people who make all the effects units, they also make a little DJ phono-preamp. I've had one for about 4 years now, and I love it! I should mention that I build Tube Hi-Fi amps in a small business and have for the past 20+ years. I also am somewhat of a Turntable collector, with a pretty extensive collection of Thorens TTs, as well as others by Empire, Ariston, Project, Rega, and more. I don't play a LOT of vinyl, but when I do, I'm pretty fussy about it. I've built phono stage pre-amps myself, using different tubes and even a solid state unit that was on some DIY site. Honestly, I keep coming back to the ART unit as it's just that good. I don't think it's all that expensive....like maybe $50 or so? And, I'm not sure where you'd find one today. You could probably do a Google search, or look on ebay or Amazon. But, if you've not made your purchase yet... I HIGHLY recommend you look into this unit. It's well worth it. An alternative is one by Rolls......and I'm pretty sure you can find that one at places like Guitar Center. Like the ART unit, it's small, simple, and VERY functional. Rolls also makes some 'Tini-Crossovers'....which I use extensively in my Stereo system. Won't work for you as you need a system with separate power and pre amps. But, this is really taking a system to a all new level!
Schiit Mani, you won't need anything else.
I agree, the Pyle one listed above should do fine.
Music Hall makes some nice ones at reasonable prices. Check out the "pa 1.2" $175.00. Music Hall (Roy Hall) was one of the first higher end audio guys to successfully source quality components from the far east. I've owned 2 of his CD Players and they were/are outstanding components for the dough. Highly reviewed budget component maker.
make sure whatever you get has an riaa equalization builtin
ebay has quite a few different types
approx 60$ to
18$ or so
16.50$ - stencil a happening brand on it and be happy. Superglue a tube on top to impress your friends.
just search "RIAA preamp"
thats why god invented 2x4's, they make great spacers.
Rex, be careful.........some of what's being discussed here is NOT 'phono pre-amp' stuff. That little Lepy amp as posted above......NOT a 'phono pre-amp'! Buy it, try to use it, and you'll NOT be a happy guy!
For what you've got in the way of equipment, I"d stick with something like the Pyle unit, or again, the ART unit (which I found more detailed than the Pyle, plus it was quieter which was a huge ++ to me!). That Little Bear unit is really not a good choice, as it's REALLY noisy, and not a well balanced unit. I've had several Little Bear products, including this little phono pre-amp as well as their Tube Phono Pre, their 'Tube buffer', tube line stage pre, and others. I used to give away their little tube line stage unit when they were all of $35 and I"d include it with the sale of one of my Tube Power Amps. But, I found too many of them were also 'imbalanced'.....and it just made the effort I went to in building the power amp look bad! So, I've gotten away from their products altogether. I still have their SS Phono Pre......their 'high dollar' version that's fully enclosed. I dislike it as much as the rest of their stuff!
I agree about putting some spacers between your amp and your turntable. Heat from the receiver isn't any good for the TT either......not to mention the lack of ventilation possibly having some ill-affects on the receiver itself.
2 X 2s are less expensive than 2 X 4s......and provide that much more room for ventilation.......lol
The Pyle is the maximum you should spend for the setup you have described.
The ART may be better but your system needs to resolve this "better". I don't think it can, but that' just my opiion and you should enjoy your music how you like!
I ended up buying this:
Works great! Thanks for your help everyone!
Art Dj Pro on Amazon.
I get that most people don't read the whole thread before posting, but maybe consider reading the post directly above yours?