Neck shake

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  1. ponce

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    There's this pretty recent phenomenon I notice with almost all YouTube guitar gurus these days. Those guys are superb players and brilliant teachers but have acquierd this annoying neck shaking tick/wankery in order to get that subtle vibrato and more sustain on EACH longer note or chord in a certain phrase.
    I've never seen pro players do this that excessively. It's one of these things you cannot unsee once you get aware of them. Or even something you cannot shake off once you start doing.:)

    Just two examples:



     
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    do that w/ a Gibson SG and you'll have a two-piece kit . . .
    :eek:
     
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    Man, I just don't see how that would bother anybody. If that's not your style, ok. But...
     
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    when I was 11 years old I chunked my 'guitar' for a cello & for the next four years our orchestra directors said if you aren't using your vibrato then GTFO :lol: ............. gnome sane?
     
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    LOL I have noticed it as well. It's probably a mental habit when they know they are recording? About 95% of the shaking has no effect anyway.
     
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    Man they sound great, I wish i could shake my way to that level.
     
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    Seems like a nervous tic to maintain visual interest when holding a chord...
     
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    I bet it's something they can hear when playing...even if it is subtle. Those are 2 amazing players so I'm not about to start judging.

    I think Bill Frisell moves his neck around quite a bit.
     
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    I noticed this too. I find it amusing.

    It will go away soon enough.
     
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    It looks like a nervous tic to me, and is completely inaudible. But, I wouldn't describe what they're doing as neck shaking, but wiggling the whole guitar.
     
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    First guy I saw do this was Michael Schenker onstage in the 80s. On a Gibson Flying V.

    I've seen Jim Campilongo play, and he pushes and pulls the neck pretty hard as part of his style.

    Nothing wrong with it...more players are simply picking up on it. Sort of like when Van Halen I came out in ?78? and next thing you know, a whole slew of players were tapping. Eddie didn't invent it, but he brought it to the masses.

     
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    I see Pete Thorn do it and I don't question anything he does with a guitar except these two questions:

    How does he do that?
    Is he even human?
     
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    I use that technique every now and then.

    It's a cool effect, when used sparingly.

    :)
     
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    I've done the push-pull neck thing, this is different. They're not putting pressure on the neck, not changing the note, they just hit a chord and wobble the guitar, often with a knowing smile.

    It's like the saxophone player tilting the sax up for the high note. Very dramatic, but...eh.
     
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    It's better than spandex pants and doing splits, I guess. So there's that.
     
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    This just points to the reality ( and I could say this about any demo I've seen)
    that no two people play the guitar the same way.
    The guitar comes (IMO) with it's own universe
     
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    Can you not hear the subtle (or not so subtle) wobble?

    If you get no wobble doing so, you’re gripping way too hard.

    How else would you get chord vibrato on guitar with a hard tail?

    I’m confused why this would be controversial.
     
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    I was going to mention Jim as well. He’s one of my few all time favorite guitar players and musicians, and this is definitely part of his style.

    It actually makes a difference and you can hear it: when doing so, if you go strong enough to pull the neck it gives a vibrato, but just shaking it gives a kind of chorusing/phasing effect because the movements alter the natural vibration of the strings. And when you shake the neck your fingers are moving a bit, so it adds to the vibrato.
    It’s subtle but it’s there, and it’s more noticeable when playing loud and clean, as always.
     
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    It’s code.

    It means they’re high.
     
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    People have been doing that for Decades.
    Neck wrangling is nothing new.
     
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