Neck pocket depth / Fender Roasted Maple

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  1. Mfp454

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    Hello, newbie, first build. Made the body myself, neck pocket is 5/8” deep, purchased a brand new fender roasted maple neck and the neck appears to be 1/8” too high. Everything I see states pocket depth should be. 5/8. Seems odd that I have to make the pocket deeper ?
     
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    Hi, welcome! Yes, 5/8" is standard pocket depth for a 1" thick neck, so measurements and/or pictures would help if there's a problem.
     
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    Can you describe in more detail or post pics? Do you mean that there is a 1/8” gap between the bottom edge of the fretboard at the 22nd fret that overhangs the body?
     
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    I will add a photo, I have close to 1/8 between pickguard and 22 feet overhang. Thanks
     
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    That gap between the overhang and the pickguard is probably just fine. The real determining factor is not the height above the pickguard, but whether you can string it up and get decent action from the saddles/bridge. Have you tried to assemble everything to check how it plays?

    I know its a weird visual, but this happens with fretboard overhangs a lot.
     
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    Please do not try to make the neck pocket deeper. I did that once and getting consistency is a real PITA. Instead take 1/8" off that part of the neck. I've been there and lost the body as a result.
     
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    Is the neck an Allparts neck or Warmoth? If the body is standard fender depth it should be fine. It would help to check it against another Fender tele. I have a WD fender replacement neck here that's a little thicker and wider than standard fender or Allparts etc. I think it was intended for a Fender Japan strat that may have a deeper wider pocket? I scribed and notched a piece out of the side to fit it in a fender neck pocket and it works fine. Ruined the look of the neck though when out of the pocket but it was only a $100 buck neck and needed to be modified to fit in any standard fender body.
    As compensation I did gain a little wiggle room on the high e string.

    I would check that body out and modify the body to suit the neck if things are out.
    No point in rendering the neck useless in any other standard spec body.
     
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  8. Tonetele

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    Sounds like a total mismatch between the neck and neck pocket. Sometimes cheaper options like WD and Mighty Mite fit better.
    One eighth of an inch is seriously too high and will affect all the set up all the way down the line. I suggest sending it back and getting a basic Stewmac Mighty Mite neck- they have NEVER failed me. Also you can get them with 21 frets, no fooling around with pickguards and replacement pickups, they also fit like a glove. You can get them in genuine 21 frets. I prefer the modern C shape and many of my buyers like that too- even a mm off. Do you really NEED a roasted Maple neck?
    After twenty years of building I think you'll get a high action as a result. JMHO
     
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    On my builds I take the pocket down to 5/8" and then I take it ever so slightly a little deeper (.040" - .045" which is about the width of a piece of card stock). This allows you to set your saddles lower and gives a bit slinkier feel that folks seem to appreciate. Use height adjustable tuners so you can skip the string trees and you have a really nice feeling guitar up and down the neck. Taking the neck pocket down a hair with a router and a template is easier than trying to sand the bottom of your neck. REmoving that much material from the bottom of the neck while keeping it perfectly flat is easier said than done in my experience. You will run into additional issues if the bottom of the neck is not perfectly flat. Any little cant at the pocket will be even worse at the nut.

    I would also make sure that there are not any burrs or extra wood in the pocket of the body that are keeping you from seating the neck all the way into the pocket. Good luck.
     
  11. Mfp454

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    Photos , neck purchased directly from fender , body is home made
    Thanks
    Mike
     

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    Can you set it up to play the way you want it to? If so, just leave everything alone. You definitely don't want to get the neck pocket too deep, or you may just have to shim it again. Plus, if it's too deep, your saddles can bottom out against the bridge plate without any room to make the action lower.
     
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    Looks ok to me
     
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    Seems fine to me too. Any lower and the side dot would be partially covered by the pickguard.
     
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    Saddles are maxed out high, and strings buzzing, too low not playable
     
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    I cropped a few pics of that area to compare.......all stock fenders..

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    there is no problems with your components.... the neck should be right at 1 inch thick at the crown of the radius to the back of the heel... that would normally make for 3/8ths above the body excluding the pickguard.. looks like yours is dead on perfect..

    put it together, tune it up and rock on..

    rk
     
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    Listen to Ron ... He knows ... Good luck with your build !!!
     
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    So you're saying that even with the saddles as high as they can go, the action is too low? A 5/8" deep neck pocket is totally standard, which makes me think that the neck is too thick. But if it's purchased directly from Fender, it's not, which makes me think there's something else going on with the setup.
     
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    Is body flat?
     
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