I'm involved with a project that has an artist painting Teles I'm making. I decided to use four ferrules and screws to mount the neck rather than a neck plate because that would allow more area for the artist to paint and it just looks better in this context. There won't be a big, square chrome thing that distracts from the artwork. But, no matter how hard I screw the screws down the neck continues to swim in the pocket! I'm searching for a reasonable solution. The neck pocket and the heel of the neck are both flat and clean so I'm a bit stumped as to why the neck won't clamp securely. I can't see why the clamping pressure exerted by four screws and ferrules would be any different than four screws and a neck plate. It's not as if without the neck plate that the wood of the body is being bent by the force of screwing together the neck and body, right? If that was the case it would mean the pocket is cupping a bit and there would not be a large flat area that the butt of the neck would mate with. (I hope you follow what I'm saying...??) I could drill two more holes for two more screws and that would likely solve the problem but it's no guarantee. Also, I don't really like the thought of drilling into the finished body. There are things that could go wrong!! I've been considering applying some sort of thin, high friction coating in the neck pocket but I don't like the idea of that because it's going to prevent direct contact of the neck butt with the pocket. My wife suggest two thin shims on either side of the neck to prevent the wiggle. That would probably work but seems like a half-assed solution. So, any thoughts are welcome...thanks. Here's the current arrangement....I'm using #10 screws as I thought that would increase the clamping force. The tape is just marking out where to drill the two extra holes if I go that route. This is where the two extra ferrules would go. Is that going to solve the problem??