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Neck humbucker for super distortion bridge

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Sparky472, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. Sparky472

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    I have a partscaster tele that I put a Dimarzio Super Distortion T in the bridge and a Seymour Duncan Jazz neck. I LOVE the Dimarzio. It sounds fantastic in the bridge - thick but clear, bright but not icepicky, not too midrangey. But the Jazz in the neck is too muddy for me in both middle and neck positions. Any thoughts on a full size humbucker that would pair nicely with the Super Distortion without being too muddy and dark?
     
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    Maybe the Super 2?
     
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    Have you ever given any thought to setting your amplifier for the neck pickup and using the tone knob to tame your bridge pickup?
     
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    I use the tone knob from time to time of course, but what you’re describing doesn’t work for me. I switch positions a lot, even in the course of one song, so I need my pickups to be a pretty solid match from the get-go. Between the switch and the volume knob, which I use a lot as well, I’ve got my hands full.

    I took a look at the Super 2. Might be the ticket. I’ll likely give that a shot.
     
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    basher Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I had a Super Distortion T in my main Tele for a few years and I never did find a neck pickup I liked with it. I ended up doing without one and wired my switch for series/split/parallel voicings. Splitting it and turning down my tone knob was a pretty good substitute for a neck pickup.
     
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    The SD Jazz is not known for being a dark pickup, so I don't know what to suggest.

    Consider bypassing the tone control for the neck position, it's possible it's being held back by the two 250K pots (assuming that's what it has).

    If you don't use the tone control, consider using twin volume knobs, a 500K for the neck and a 250K on the bridge.
     
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    I have a Dimarzio Air Norton in the neck of my Ibanez, paired with a super distortion in the bridge. I like the combination. A lot of mids from the Norton. If you want a lot of treble, rather than mids, maybe try the Seymour Duncan 59. I have that in the neck of my King V, paired with a JB in the bridge. Seems like the 59 should work well with the super distortion.
     
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    The '59 is darker than the Jazz, I don't think that will work in this case.
     
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    Very similar tone profiles. A bit more bass in the 59, but it works great with the JB so I’m fairly sure it would work with the super distortion.
     
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    I don't doubt it would work, but the OP has it dark with the Jazz as is, so hhe probably can't go anymore bass-ier. IMO
     
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    Good point. Though neither is a dark pickup. Hopefully what you suggested above works for OP.
     
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    it seems like DiMarzio likes the Super2 neck combined w the Super Distortion bridge:

    "If you love the sound of a Super Distortion® in the bridge and you like hot neck pickups too, try a Super 2™. The Super 2™ takes the classic Super Distortion® sound and slides the EQ up in favor of the high-end, so its brighter top and lighter bottom work to balance out the darker, overtone heavy information up by the fingerboard. The Super 2™ is just the pickup to clean up the overdrive sound of a mud-heavy 24¾’’ scale, two-humbucker guitar or to add snap to a dark sounding 25½” bolt-on. It works great in the bridge or the neck."​
     
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    The classic pairing for the Dimarzio Super distortion in the bridge is a the Dimarzio P.A.F. in the neck position. Tried and true for over 40 years.
     
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    DiMarzio PAF Pro, or an Evolution. I wouldn't go with a straight DiMarzio PAF anymore, but the 356th Anniversary, or the PAF Pro (a bit brighter) or the Evo (a little brighter still) would be my choice in the neck position..
     
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    Thanks guys. After looking at all the options on Dimarzio’s website, it seems like the Super 2 skews more to the high end, so I think I’ll give that a shot first.
     
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    The only Duncan that is brighter than the Jazz (which is a Very Bright Pickup- check your wiring), is the Full Shred.
     
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    Popped in a Super 2 this morning. I think it’s going to fit the bill. Only had a few minutes to play but seems to be a good match for the Super Distortion in the bridge, not muddy at all, good balance.

    @Mincer - wiring not the issue. Maybe I got a bad sample with the Jazz. I’ve tried it before in other builds and felt it was muddy sounding, esp for what’s supposed to be a brighter humbucker.
     
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    Yeah, that's strange, but possible depending on the guitar. If the Jazz is muddy, and there isn't anything 'wrong' with the pickup (and it still has the stock A5 magnet), you might just have a muddy sounding guitar.
     
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    Sparky I have been using Dimarzio Pickups since the 70's. Application specificity seems to be Dimarzios forte. I have a Evolution p.u. in my Ibanez cheapy grinder and it maintains it's best qualities now mater what kind or how many creepy boxes I run it through. They make a pick up called "Humbucker from hell" which is terribly misleading, the p.u. does a great version of a hum free P-90, I put one in my Chandler lap steel AWE HOT-!CHA I just love how it sounds
     
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