Neck heel crack - HELP

[homesick345]

My friend got a hollowbody electric ; which Neck heel cracked during transport

the crack is visible & you can lift the neck to see the space etc.. the crack is in the middle of the heel

A luthier is gluing it
My question is: is it enough if a gluing job done right; or is this a critical area that needs a rod implant; reinforcement?

crack is like this same place generally?
https://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=117632&d=1396500972

Any general considerations?? (luthier first suggested a rod going through the fretboard? He says he'll glue it & decide later ...anyway is this a good idea?)
thanks a lot for your help

 

[eallen]

A good glue job should do fine! It looks like a nice clean crack. Sounds like your luthier is thinking correctly cause you can always do more but can't go back to less.

Eric

Eric

 

[rjtwangs]

If the luthier knows what he's doing you'll be fine. Repairs like this are common in the acoustic guitar world. Of course the value of the instrument will not be the same as an unrepaired instrument. Probably 20%-35% will decrease, depending on the quality of the repair. Hope this is helpful.


RJ

 

[rjtwangs]

Duplicate post, very sorry....why doesn't a moderator delete this??


RJ

 

[bondoman]

Looks as if its cracked along its original scarf joint. Meaning it was glued there to begin with. Just not very well. If the luthier knows what he's doing it should be better than before.

 

[OakhurstAxe]

If built with hyde glue you could just steam it back together. If it was, it probably got too hot and humid during shipment.

If its was titebond, it may have just gotten too hot during shipping, or the seam was too tight and during clamp up too much glue got squeezed out. Personally I would hyde glue it together, and find out what the finish is made of. You might be able to repair lacquer so it is nearly impossible to see the repair.

 

[Silverface]

IMO it's impossible to tell without more details: what type of guitar; if that is or is't the original scarf joint; if it was the type of glue used originally; if not how will the repairperson be gluing/clamping it; who is doing the repair ad what kind of experience does he/she have?

"Luthier" is a term that gets tossed around in ways that are honestly meaningless, like anyone from a tech with decades of experience to a guy in a guitar store who owns a few tools - and some builders ("Luthier" is the term for a builder - not a repair tech) are inexperienced when it comes to some types of repair.

I've seen joints like this that were glued, clamped - but the well-meaning repairperson figured the\ more pressure the better - which results in a dry joint, where so much glue is pressed out there's not enough left for proper adhesion.

also, if it happened to be a hollowbody electric *12 string* there's no way I would repair that with a glue and clamp job.

Even if not a 12 it may need splines for reinforcement. If the guitar is a quality instrument - and again, there's just not enough info from one picture - I almost always use two splines, just as I would with many headstock repairs.