Name a Guitar Player that was totally original

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Post Toastie, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. J-man

    J-man Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    North Wales
    Admin Post
    Hey Bucksstudent, it's nice having you around to correct our opinions for us. ;)
  2. RonS

    RonS Tele-Meister

    Mar 19, 2011
    Amsterdam, NY
    Brad Paisley
  3. BGTele

    BGTele Tele-Afflicted

    May 6, 2008
    West New Jersey
    Everyone is influenced, nobody sounds like anyone else.
  4. BucksStudent

    BucksStudent Banned

    Sep 24, 2010
    Hey man, no problem.

    I'm not trying to correct anyone. I'm trying to instigate some conversation. There's not much of that in this thread.
  5. Badabing

    Badabing Friend of Leo's

    Oct 13, 2009
    San Marcos, Ca
    There is no doubt imho that Charlie Christian has to be on this list. I have read that Chuck Berry studied Charlie's licks. I believe that T-bone did the same...

    OF the new artists I would say that I have no idea who Jack White is trying to sound like???? He is a bit original... funny thing about that is that in the documentary "it might get loud" he claims that Son House was his biggest influence!
  6. JaysRiff

    JaysRiff Tele-Meister

    Jun 18, 2011
    Firstly i've been to a buddy guy concert & it was great although maybe just a little one paced but i only have a few buddy guy albums i'm not sure one needs many more if ya get my drift.

    I think your second point is highly debatable, when i think of jimi's studio recordings i certainly can't think of a lead that is not befitting & perfect for each song
  7. A.B.Negative

    A.B.Negative Friend of Leo's

    Aug 26, 2008
    That's why Frith and Sonic Youth aren't original! ;)
  8. songofthewind

    songofthewind Tele-Meister

    Sep 28, 2008
    Anybody mentioned Wayne Krantz yet?
  9. Tommy Biggs

    Tommy Biggs Friend of Leo's

    Jun 17, 2010
    Northern NJ
    I'm with the nobody is totally original crowd on this one, but Clarence Gatemouth Brown had his own thing going on with that talking guitar technique.
  10. Twin and Twang

    Twin and Twang Tele-Meister

    Aug 7, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    Anyone say John McLaughlin already?

    Here's my list of 5...

    John McLaughlin
    Robert Fripp
    Glenn Branca
    Roy Buchanan
    Link Wray
  11. JackStraw

    JackStraw Friend of Leo's

    Mar 22, 2008
    In The Pines
    Martin Carthy.
  12. BucksStudent

    BucksStudent Banned

    Sep 24, 2010
    Fripp I would actually agree with to an extent. I know I emulate him all the time.
  13. axeornot

    axeornot Tele-Meister

    Feb 22, 2011
    the here & now region
    Yup I agree and let's see what these monster players say on it (sorry can't resist sharing this..these quotes and the diversity in the list cats here blows my mind!!)

    Quotes on Lenny Breau:

    "Lenny Breau played more great stuff at one time than anybody on the planet... with feeling and tone. He was the best that ever lived, bar none."
    -Danny Gatton

    "He is one of the true geniuses of the guitar. I suppose he is a musician's musician. His knowledge of the instrument and the music is so vast, and I think that's what knocks people out about him. But he's such a tasty player too. I think if Chopin had played guitar, he would have sounded like Lenny Breau."
    -Chet Atkins, CGP

    "[Lenny] is the best I have ever heard, and I have heard some players!"
    -Jerry Reed, CGP

    "He had the ability to reach into your heart."
    -Larry Carlton

    "He dazzled me with his extraordinary guitar playing... I wish the world had the opportunity to experience his artistry."
    -George Benson

    "Lenny Breau was the most innovative guitarist since Wes Montgomery."
    -Phil Upchurch
    (Phil also mentions that Wes became a huge Lenny fan after hearing just one album by him in the late 60s - most likely "Velvet Touch")

    "What really got me was the soul behind all the playing."
    -Mike Stern

    "Regardless of style, few musicians have been universally held in such high esteem by their peers."
    -Jim Ferguson, "Lenny Breau Remembered", Guitar Player Magazine 1984

    "The late Lenny Breau was an uncrowned king of jazz fingerstyle guitar. A relatively unknown voice on the instrument, he startled newcomers to his music by his ability to comp chords behind himself sounding like two guitarists, ring out lengthy bell-like harmonic passages, tastefully blend his influences of country, jazz and flamenco and fluidly improvise in this style."
    -Brawner Smoot, "The Immortal Lenny Breau" 1986

    "It was the freshest, most exciting thing I had heard in years. ... He...was doing things that I never dreamed of. It was one of the greatest days of my life, the first day I heard Lenny."
    -Chet Atkins

    "Lenny is the greatest guitar player in the world today. I think he knows more guitar than any guy that's ever walked the face of the earth, because he can play jazz, he can play a little classical, he can play great country--and he does it all with taste."
    -Chet Atkins

    "My first reaction was a combination of jealousy, envy, admiration - because he was so good and so original. I thought, 'Oh my God. This guy is light years ahead of me and so many other people around here.'"
    -Ed Bickert

    "I have found a better player than I am."
    -Merle Travis, describing a then 12-year-old Lenny

    "Breau was perhaps the most technically brilliant guitarist of our time. ... Gatton thought Breau was the best ever."
    -Steve Wolf, article from Danny Gatton's official hall of fame page

    "It must be remembered that Coltrane's Jazz in 1962 was better known for experimentation.... This type of eccentric and unorthodox playing, which most musicians and guitarists could not comprehend, nor play, appealed to Lenny. When Lenny sat in...when Lenny's turn came to play, the effect was electrifying. Coltrane leaned over with eyes wide-open, looked at Lenny's hands, and smiled."
    -George Sykornyk, on Lenny's encounter with John Coltrane

    "Even when Lenny noodled, it was a feast!"
    -Frank Zappa's words through Steve Vai

    "The late Lenny Breau was a true jazz guitar genius who ranks alongside Django Reinhardt, Charlie Christian and Wes Montgomery as one of a select few inspired innovators who set new standards of creative artistry in Jazz Guitar history.
    Lenny's musical influences were truly diverse. They ranged from Country fingerstyle master Chet Atkins, Jazz Guitarists Johnny Smith and Tal Farlow, Flamenco virtuoso Sabicas, Jazz pianist Bill Evans and sax titan John Coltrane. Drawing from these eclectic sources Lenny created a truly unique voice in the guitar world.
    Lenny's unprecedented technical facility and depth of musical insight allowed him to play Bill Evans style chord voicings simultaneously with improvised single note lines. His country and classical right hand techniques allowed for great independence of parts and subtle tonal and dynamic shadings. Lenny possessed a singular blend of techniques and musical knowledge that often created the illusion of two and sometimes three musicians eminating from a single guitarist."

    "He was the best electric bassist ever including Jaco [Pastorious]. He played the best solo on bass that you ever heard. It was ridiculous. Lenny was so advanced on bass that most guys wouldn't even try to do what he was doing because it was light years beyond anything they could ever think about."
    -Don Thompson, universally regarded one of the greatest jazz bassists and multi-instrumentalists ever

    "One day I was at Chet's and he told me he wanted me to meet this guitarist. Lenny was upstairs playing. Even before I made it half way up the stairs I was hearing things that were astonishing. Ten minutes later I was sitting with Lenny who began to play harmonics such as I have never in my life, and then I started learning right there and then. Chet, and he mentions it in his autobiography, always regretted that he didn't film that session. To this day, there is no one in the world who can do what Lenny did and we are all indebted to his legacy."
    -Tommy Emmanuel

    "Then Lenny Breau came along, and he could play like everyone: Chet, Joe [Pass], Bill Evans, Gene Autry [laughs], and that's what really floored me. When you're learning what Lenny does, you're learning everything, because he was covering so many genres. It was frustrating, really."
    -Phil deGruy

    "His intuition was the predominant force in his playing, rather than his intellect. ... He knew the chords he was playing, and he could spell them out if he had to, but he was more into musical colors, which he largely achieved using harmonics'simultaneous, cascading, and various amalgamations. He was always finding something new."
    -Phil deGruy

    "One night I heard out of the blue just as I was getting ready to go to sleep this guitar player singing quietly with harmonics, and different voicings, and I felt this electric bolt go through me. I sat up and I couldn't believe what I was hearing."
    -Lorne Lofsky

    "He was just this great, wonderful personality that I was attracted to because he seemed so free in his own right. Lenny had the guts to play what he wanted to play. He always played from the heart and he never pretended anything when he was playing, never tried to impress. He didn't buy into the bull****. There was just total honesty all the time and that was why he was so special. Didn't matter who was around, he was continually himself. He didn't know how to do anything else or be anything else. That's one of the reasons I loved him so much: he was always, always true."
    -Judi Singh

    "Lenny was amazing, one of those people who make you feel like you've arrived."
    -Peter Appleyard

    "I was stunned; stunned is the word. Here was this little guy with this ready smile who had so much respect for other people and their music and was so encouraging about whatever you were doing. Completely selfless in that way. Then he picked up his guitar and it was like someone from another planet playing - effortless genius, just effortless. Totally apropos, no matter what it was. Every note that came out of his guitar would be like it was dictated from the music muses of the universe.
    He just totally tuned into what I was doing, which is why every one of those takes [on the album] is a first take (virtually all of the recordings on Lenny's official albums were first takes)... As far as I was concerned, I felt I had the good fortune to accompany a genius on that album."
    -Beverly Glenn-Copeland
    (referring to her eponymous debut album from 1970)

    "Every great guitarist I have been privileged to know - and the list includes Oscar Castro-Neves, Mundell Lowe, Gene Bertoncini, Ed Bickert, Reg Schwager, the late Emily Remler, and more - has considered Lenny a wunderkind at minimum, even some kind of musical miracle. The universality of Lenny's interests on the instrument led him to the most total technique on guitar I have ever heard."
    -Gene Lees, legendary music critic

    "When you look over the guitar literature of the past, Sor, Tarrega, the transcriptions of Segovia and more, when you look back down through the instrument's history to the time before it had six strings, you are compelled to think that more than just maybe, Lenny Breau was the most accomplished guitarist in history."
    -Gene Lees
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2011
  14. Weazel

    Weazel Tele-Meister

    Oct 21, 2009
    Late to the party, but Marc Ribot is something else. Sorry if he's been mentioned already, but I couldn't go back in the thread due to some upgrade work on the server or something.
  15. Jared Purdy

    Jared Purdy Friend of Leo's

    Jan 26, 2010
    Toronto, Ontario.
    T Bone Walker, Robert Johnson, Charlie Christian, BB King, Muddy, Jerry Garcia, Doc Watson. There are probably a lot more, but they come to mind. Not that they didn't have influences, obviously all of them did, in one way or another. As several others have also mentioned, there is a very large number of Afircan guitarists who have got a very different style and sound when compared to the west.
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2011
  16. mr natural

    mr natural Friend of Leo's

    Jan 5, 2004
    Atlanta, GA. Neither Albany nor Oak Park
    Man, I can't believe only one person mentioned Syd Barrett so far. Sure, he wasn't a virtuoso, and you could hear his influences on a lot of his stuff, but some of the stuff he did came straight out of left field. Nobody, before or since, would even think to do some of the things he did to a Telecaster.
    -Mr. Natural
  17. Beachbum

    Beachbum Friend of Leo's

    Mar 11, 2009
    Sand Land

    +1 - Everything has to come from somewhere. But, if I had to choose the most original I can think of I'd say Frank Zappa.
  18. Collirem

    Collirem Tele-Meister

    Jun 14, 2011
    Wichita. Kansas
    Martin Barre & Joe Walsh .....
  19. Steveareno

    Steveareno Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 10, 2010
    Dogtown So Cal
    +1 Django
    +1 Charlie Christian

    Swnag on,
  20. burtonfan

    burtonfan Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 16, 2010
    Chet Atkins. After all, he is (was) MR. Guitar!:D
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