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Why is a non-tube Class D ( right?) modeling amp $900?!?
Because Fender can?
I have no problem with the concept of the amp, would probably love to have one ( with its DR Tone, looks, light weight) but shouldn't this be more like $500 and not $900?

I thought the same. Its also made in China..maybe they priced it that way so as to maintain interest in their tube amps...if it's that good and sold for $400 to $500 , why even think of Fender tube amps again ?
 

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I thought the same. Its also made in China..maybe they priced it that way so as to maintain interest in their tube amps...if it's that good and sold for $400 to $500 , why even think of Fender tube amps again ?

As I have not bought any substantial gear in a long time, I was out of touch with just how much prices go up! Even on Imports

Just examples:
My blonde Blues Jr. (mine is USA) cost me $275 in 2000-

My 2004 Standard Tele was $345, now $600-$700 - called something else now

A Blueridge 000-28 style acoustic ( all solid) that was $700 in 2018 (actually a very nice Birthday gift) is almost $1200!

I gotta get with the times!
 

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I thought the same. Its also made in China..maybe they priced it that way so as to maintain interest in their tube amps...if it's that good and sold for $400 to $500 , why even think of Fender tube amps again ?

Pretty sure this has been gone over to death in this and other threads, but you can’t buy an equivalent loaded cabinet for $400-500, let alone the amplifier/computer unit itself with its R&D, materials, labor, and distribution.
 

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Nowadays we've got smartphones and we still have books.
Tonemaster are kindle (IMHO).
I do appreciate the effort of Fender DR team, but I fear Tonemaster will remain in a market niche.
Please Fender, don't stop creating valve amps.
I'm waiting for a brand new all-tube model beside the vintage ones.


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Nowadays we've got smartphones and we still have books.
Tonemaster are kindle (IMHO).
I do appreciate the effort of Fender DR team, but I fear Tonemaster will remain in a market niche.
Please Fender, don't stop creating valve amps.
I'm waiting for a brand new all-tube model beside the vintage ones.


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I don't think they should stop making valve amps. I love them. BUT... the TMDR is an excellent tool that I use at every gig (when we used to gig). It's light, sounds great, has a great DI out and the attenuation works great in the bars I play. My valve amps don't do that well. They sound GREAT cranked up (when I can do that), record well, but I sure wish somebody would carry them for me! Seriously, I think there's room for both.
 

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Please Fender, don't stop creating valve amps.
I'm waiting for a brand new all-tube model beside the vintage ones.

They need to innovate with their tube amps. Maybe a brownface, blackface or tweed with power scaling. Maybe a direct out with built in reactive load. People record in their homes and venues want less loudness. Rather than give a digital facsimile, why not real tubes with attenuators. Other companies (Tone King, Suhr, Mesa) are doing this.
 

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They need to innovate with their tube amps. Maybe a brownface, blackface or tweed with power scaling. Maybe a direct out with built in reactive load. People record in their homes and venues want less loudness. Rather than give a digital facsimile, why not real tubes with attenuators. Other companies (Tone King, Suhr, Mesa) are doing this.

The issue with tube amps is heat..or heat dissipation which some brands do better than others. This is a particular problem where the valves are placed upside down in the chassis..as they were in times past. ideally all tubes should be above board as with most Marshall amps;, but I guess there's a reason why that's not the case...
 

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Anyone tried the blonde version of the TM Deluxe, the one with the Neo Creamback instead of the Jensen, and the virtual bright cap removed?
 

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Yep I have one , sounds better imo than the Jensen, not had a chance to crank it, but have rehersal later, so will give it a go... ;)
 

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Why is a non-tube Class D ( right?) modeling amp $900?!?
Because Fender can?
I have no problem with the concept of the amp, would probably love to have one ( with its DR Tone, looks, light weight) but shouldn't this be more like $500 and not $900?

I got lucky and got mine used off of some kid for $700, so that split the difference!
 

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That would be a great fee,

The problem (from a company perspective), is that they already have a modeling product (GTX100) that they sell at that price point.
And that they can sell as many as they make for more than double. I want a nice house for 25K like they used to be. See the problem?
 
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IMHO, Fender really hit it out of the park with the Tone Master series. Great, versatile, amps. Also great tone all across the spectrum. The ultimate gigging amp (weighs 23 lbs).
It is pretty darn close to ideal as a gigging amp. I still wish it included a jack for external speaker, but it does check a lot of boxes.
 




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