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NAD: 1962 Brownface Deluxe

Discussion in 'Glowing Bottle Tube Amp Forum' started by RadioFM74, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. RadioFM74

    RadioFM74 Friend of Leo's

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    Hey @teletimetx – just an update on my experience. When you A/B for the sake of doing that, you don't ask the right questions and you don't pay attention to the important stuff. Today I noticed while playing the strat in the Brown Deluxe that the in-between positions were dull and lifeless. All the rest played wonderful, but the quack wasn't there. I could have corrected that by cranking the tone, perhaps, but at the cost of making the other sounds brittle. I decided to try the Tremolux and it was glorious. Funk rhythm galore. Ditto for SRV "Cold Shot" tones, and for John Mayer-ish tones.

    So I correct: even at bedroom levels, for certain uses they are not interchangeable at all. The Brown Deluxe excels at meaty blues and rock sounds (and is spectacular with a tele also for country tones). Conversely, the Tremolux can be sweet and jazzy – especially with a warmer P-90 guitar like the Casino – it can be a spanky funk machine, and it has some blues tones in it that the Deluxe does not have. I feel truly privileged to have both (and the Zephyr for my swing needs). They complement each other wonderfully, and I'm sure I'll be even more convinced of this when rehearsals and gigs will resume.
     
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  2. teletimetx

    teletimetx Doctor of Teleocity

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    Hey, Radio! Thanks for the update.

    As a sort of follow-up, I did some A/B comparisons with my Tremolux and SF Princeton (no-reverb) I have.
    For the Telecaster I used, not much difference, other than at higher volume, the Princeton can’t compete with the Tremolux. No surprise there. Same for any higher gain sounds.
    For the Strat I tested, one surprise - I liked the position 4 sound from the Princeton more than the Tremolux; otherwise, the Tremolux was more appealing, and again, higher volume favored the Tremolux.
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    A little over a year ago, I bought the Lovepedal 4-knob “Deluxe”, which is said to emulate the Brownface Deluxe. It’s kind of a low-ish gain overdrive pedal.

    I like it a lot. It does not have a universal appeal, however, and the large-spendy crowd don’t think very much of it.

    I can understand the skepticism, as I doubt that it accurately replicates the sonic experience of the real thing. However, it does add a certain “sweetness “ that I like. I will probably settle for that until I find a Brownface that works for me.

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  3. dannyh

    dannyh Tele-Afflicted

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    Congrats! That’s a beauty. Glad you got it (I was following your other thread). The 6G3 is an wonderful and pretty versatile amp. Sounds like you’ve noticed....

    If you do try a more efficient speaker, may I suggest checking out the Eminence JS1250. Great speaker for that circuit, or at least it’s great sounding in my amp.
     
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  4. RadioFM74

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    No skepticism here! I think that both your Princeton and the Tremolux are perfect platforms for a character pedal like that. I still hope that you'll find a brown to suit you. This little thing is magic.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion.

    I keep finding good or wonderful sounds in the Brownface Deluxe. I had concluded that one of my teles sounded harsh in it. Wrong: I just had to plug it in the Normal channel. Wonderful. Now the 52 and 64 sound close, but the variation is significant enough that I enjoy both… Jimmy Bryant and Don Rich (… if I had those hands, that is). Ridiculously good country tones with zero effort.

    I had concluded that my Casino sounded congested in it. Wrong: I got the shims I ordered and set pickup height today (had to anyway), plus I had the intuition to again plug in the Normal channel, input 2. A spectacular blues and jazz sound, and with a little bit of OD in front the Sound of Rock.

    Each of these guitars – and the strat – give me something different with the T-lux and the D-lux. Today's experience made me understand that there's hope even for my DeArmond… we'll see!
     
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    Wallaby Tele-Afflicted

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    Nice! I love your collection, I bet everything sounds great!
     
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    Yes! Now I have to stop obsessing about gear and just play! (As if I believed what I just wrote…)
     
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    zeke54 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Great score , that one looks super clean ! I have one too that I bought around 1980 , the brownies have a sound all their own ! Congrats and enjoy !
     
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    Thanks Zeke!

    They do, and yesterday I made a fun discovery. Just below is a vid that I've posted countless times here. To me it epitomizes THE "country breakup tele" tone. I love it, just as I love Ricky's tasty licks.

    Yesterday I was transcribing his solo and licks – learned LOTS! – and my brown Deluxe just nailed the tone at bedroom level, with a humble BD-2 set low in front to simulate hot tubes. At one point I peeped up at the vid and… look at the amp he's using!

    From what I read, and from what I think I see (no close-ups, but looks like "small with three knobs per channel") it's a 1962 Vibrolux… Not my amp, but definitely same family and same tonal signature!

     
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  10. zeke54

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    Great video , thank you .
     
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