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NAD 1954 Fender 5C7 Bandmaster

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by BloozeGtr, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. BloozeGtr

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    Hi all,

    About a week ago, I started the following thread regarding whether I should buy a used 5B3 Deluxe https://www.tdpri.com/threads/am-i-...-5b3-wide-panel-deluxe.1051059/#post-10156916

    I walked away from that deal...and ended up with this instead - a 1954 Fender 5C7 Bandmaster with original transformers and speaker! I got it online from Killer Vintage in Dallas (Dave Hinson's shop). If I understand correctly, these amps are sort of rare - I don't see much info posted on these on the forums.

    I must say, owning a piece of history is cool (although at least portions of the exterior have been replaced since the 80s).

    Now I would LIKE to plug it in and give it a rip...but I want to be safe first. I know that it has a modern three-plug cable and was sold from a reputable dealer where it was played through. HOWEVER, the death cap thing still makes me nervous. I have posted photos below. Would any of you be able to say whether it is still in the circuit??? I've searched for photographs of what one looks like online, but cannot find them. I have heard though that if the 3-prong is properly installed, there should be little worry.

    And if any of you guys have experience with a 5C7, please chime in! Could be cool to get a convo going on this model.

    With love,
    BloozeGtr
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  3. BloozeGtr

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    I had thought so...just wanted to be sure
     
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    Interesting 3 wire plug...where on earth ;) is that ground headed to?
     
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    Sound clips when you get it checked out and running or we, we, we...come at you with the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, or something!

    Congrats on snagging a beaut!
     
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    Wide Panel Bandmaster was Fender's first amp with bass and treble tone controls wasn't it?

    What's the screw through the faceplate?
     
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    It looks to me like that safety ground might be screwed down to the chassis there. Weird, but that's where it looks like it's headed.
     
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    Wow. Super cool. Another desert island amp I think.
     
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    It's had an older partial service - I'd get a full service done on it before rocking out *too* hard.
     
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    That's a killer amp.
    Great entry into tweed land.
    Congrats.
    Somebody's been in there, but it needs to go to a tech.
    The power chord is sketchy, the death cap is still there, there's a bypass cap or 2 that need to be changed, the remaining Astrons need to be checked for leakage...but you're off to a good start!
    I have a wide panel Pro with a 15" speaker and it just HONKS.
    Very beamy, though...turn it around and face it into a corner ;)
     
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    What's the big screw through the "Band Master" doing?
     
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    See above. It may be serving as the ground for the power cord.
     
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    That's where that green/yellow wire must be going.
    That's some ham-fisted $%&t right there.
    And who's ever seen a power cord with those color wires?
    And that red ground jumper from that signal cap to the pot,
    You can see the ground wire peeking through the eyelet...I wonder what the deal is with that wire.
    I'd say you could clip that death cap (put it in a guitar in place of an .047 tone cap;) give it a listen, and get it off to a tech ASAP.
    I bet those dropping resistors need to go, too...they take a beating.
     
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    I wish there was a schematic....
     
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    European spec cord. Blue/brown/green-yellow.
     
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    Aha!
    I don't get around much ;)
     
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    Most of those are pretty much similar enough you don't need one.
     
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    Similar to what? I think there would be differences from a 5E7, which didn't have a mic input but does have 4 inputs like a 5e6 or 5f6 bassman.
     
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    There might be a schematic in either Pittman's or Weber's first books. I seemed to have misplaced my old copies of those at the moment. I know I've seen earlier Bandmaster layouts and schematics somewhere, probably when I built the 5e7. The 5e7 is different enough to be of little use.

    Cool amp !
     
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    And Mid and Presence, I believe.
    Pretty different animal.
     
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