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N3 vs N4 (Telecaster)

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by umut, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. umut

    umut TDPRI Member

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    hi ,
    i have an american deluxe telecaster with n3 pickups,
    i m thinking about n4, what are your experiences,
    is it worth changing them?

    thank you
     
  2. Derek Kiernan

    Derek Kiernan Friend of Leo's

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    I don't have enough experience with the N4 to say much, but I realllyy disliked the N3. Is there a reason you're just thinking of the N4?
     
  3. umut

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    Because of 60 cycle hum... I really enjoy n3 but
    I wonder if n4 could be a better choice?...
     
  4. Derek Kiernan

    Derek Kiernan Friend of Leo's

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    There's a lot of noisefree options on the market that are discussed on the TDPRI if you haven't seen them before.
     
  5. teleNtweed

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    The N4 bridge is really good! Neck is good too, but the bridge really stood out! I stuck with Bardens but the N4s are a step up from N3s IMO.
     
  6. umut

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    so maybe I should try the N3 neck and the 4th gen bridge?
     
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  7. Hackweed

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    I have a new Tele Elite with n4's.My other Teles are equipped:1 with Dimarzio Twang Kings, the other CS Texas Specials. They all deliver for different reasons and while at home I prefer the Twang Kings ...but for live gig volume the n4's really make up for some loss of frequencies (compared to the TK's), with a completely noise free environment. In live settings nobody will miss some of those frequencies. I have no comparison to n3, but this is my n4 experience.
     
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  8. uriah1

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    I did not like N3s I have heard. Not sure about the N4 stuff yet.
     
  9. RedWhiteBlues

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    I have N3's on mine and was thinking about the same thing - "upgrading " to N4's. I know there's not a lot of love here for the N3's - I don't mind them at all personally but, like many, I've always been looking for something "better". "Better" is really just "different" and I have come to the realization that the only person that notice's incremental changes is the player. If I need or want a different sound, I just use a different guitar. I am lucky enough to be able to choose between a couple of Tele's and a Strat. And I've found I can get different sounds by working on my playing instead of my guitar...
     
  10. umut

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    I agree with what you say. But I do not use the n3 to get the traditional tele sound. They are something else. I need a more traditional smelling but modern feeling. Obviously I am happy with the N3's. I thought that I could go even further with n4. Still not sure :)
     
  11. RedWhiteBlues

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    ...I know what you mean but it may be a case of diminishing returns - better but not enough to warrant the cost. I really don't know...
     
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  12. teleNtweed

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    Actually if I was going to be a risk taker, I would try an N4 for the bridge and a Vintage Noiseless in the neck. I remember really liking that neck pup. However, I have not tried this so please don't interpret this as me encouraging you to do this! But if you do...I'd be REALLY curious how it turns out! :)
     
  13. Middleman

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    I had N3s in my Deluxe Tele and although I really like the N4s went with the Custom Shop Blackguards. Let those transients run free and a tele sound like a tele. The Nx anything tend to exude the sound of compression and sometimes you want to cut through. I can compress on a pedal if I want it. As far as noiseless, I've always felt they were a bit of compromise.

    I bought a new volume, tone, switch plate and built the standard wiring. That way I can switch things back if needed. The S1 switch was just a little boost in the middle pickup position which was not all that useful. So rather than try to make that work with the new pickups I just replaced everything.

    The noiseless pickups just sound too homogenized for my tastes. Love the CSBs.
     
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