my favorite things jazzy chord changes?

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  1. dijos

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    has anyone run across a jazzy set of changes for this? It's got to be out there, but I want to see if what I'm working on is working.
     
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    As written it's a pretty 'jazzy' set of changes.
    Are you interested in what the Coltrane 4-tet did with it - which was actually to simplify the changes (they made it more modal)?
    Or, do you want to find cool extensions for the chords that are already there?
     
  4. dijos

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    sorry, I was looking to take say, Ralph Patt's version above and add some more movement to it, some extensions and /or substitutions.
     
  5. jazztele

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    okay, so here's the voicing's i use when playing this tune a la mccoy tyner. some are a direct representation of a mccoy voicing fit to the guitar, others are my choices (trane's original recording keeps an E in the bass on ALL chords except the F near the end of the verse)




    intro to song: | Em | Em9 | C/E | Am6/E |
    intro to verse :| Em9 | F#m9/E | (x4)


    verse
    | Em7 | Em/maj9 | Em7 (type 2) | Em/maj9 |

    | Cmaj7/E | C6#11/E | Cmaj7/E | C6#11 |

    | Am9/E | D13b9/E | Gmaj13/E | Fmaj7 |

    | Em11 | Em11(no 9) | F#m7b5/E | B7/E :] (repeat with intro to verse)


    || Emaj7 | A6/E | Emaj7 | A6/E || (repeat &ad lib)



    verse 3

    | Emaj7(type 2) | Amaj9/E | Emaj7 (2) | Amaj9/E |

    | E6 | F#m7/E | E6 | F#m7/E |

    | Am9/E | D13b9/E | Gmaj13/E | Fmaj |

    | Em11 | Em11(no 9) | F#m7b5/E | B7/E |




    (when the dog bites...)

    || Em | Em/maj7 | Am/E | D7b9/E |

    | Em | Em11 | Cmaj7 | Cmaj9 |

    | Cmaj7/E | C6#11 | Em11 | A/E |

    | F#m7b5 | B7+5b9 | G6/9 | B7+5 |


    outro: Em9 to F#m9/E, and end on a big 'ol Em/maj9


    okay, voicings time!

    intro to song:

    Em: 0x545x
    Em9: 0x420x
    C/E: 0x555x
    Am6/E: 0x455x


    intro to verse:

    Em9: 0x5775
    F#m9/E 0x7997


    verse:

    Em7: 07578x
    Em/maj9: 07587x
    Em7 (type 2) 07575x

    Cmaj7/E: 0 x 10 9 12 x
    C6#11/E: 0x797x

    Am9/E: 0x5557
    D13b9/E: 0x4547
    Gmaj13/E: 0x4455
    Fmaj7: 1x221x

    Em11: 0x2233
    Em11(no 9) 0x2232
    F#m7b5/E: 0x4555
    B7/E: 0x424x

    repeat & ad lib part (following second verse)

    Emaj7: 07989x
    A6/E: 0x767x


    3rd verse


    Emaj7(type 2): 0x644x
    Amaj9/E: 0x465x
    E6: 0x4444
    F#m7/E: 0x4655

    Am9/E...B7/E (same as before)

    when the dog bites...

    Em: 0x998x
    Em/maj7: 0x988x
    Am/E: 0x755x
    D7b9/E: 0x454x
    Em: 0x998x
    Em11: 0x778x
    Cmaj7: x3545x
    Cmaj9: x3243
    Cmaj7/E: 0 x 10 9 8 7
    C6#11: 0x797x
    Em11: 0x778x
    A/E: 0 x 11 9 10 x
    F#m7b5: x 9 x 9 10 7
    B7+5b9: 7x7888
    G6/9: 3x2233
    B7+5: 7x7887
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2009
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    Nice Jeff!

    That's an amazing lesson right there.

    I'm stealing all that. Thank you.
     
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    +1000!

    I've been working on this for a couple of weeks and haven't come up with anything approaching this.

    Thanks Jazztele!
     
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    Good stuff...Thanks for posting!

    So much more interesting than all the posts about pickups, hardware, bridge/saddle etc. Just kidding, they all have their place on this forum...I just really appreciate/prefer learning MUSIC!

    Back to practice.
     
  9. jazztele

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    well, you're all most welcome!

    i could sit and listen to mccoy tyner for hours. his voicings often transfer to guitar quite nicely too...as you can see here, there's really nothing difficult going on here, just such cool sounds against the pedal tone...

    merry christmas!


    oh, and as a note, some of these chords are probably not named "correctly"--this just sort of reflects the original pratt chart and my basic way of naming chords as an overall tonality + whatever important tensions i want to specify.
     
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    Thanks JT...I have always liked this tune, for a while there all I was doing was kind of chord melody kinds of things and have had trouble with the melody jumping around in 4th as it does, but that is also the really cool thing about the tune to my ears. I haven't heard these versions I guess (although I know the coltrane versions, the one I have isn't necessarily to my taste), but perhaps now is a good time to check it out again...thanks for that, nicely set out as well...
     
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    The Fmaj 7 (on 'string') before the tonic is great - ala McCoy. Its amazing how many people playing a comparatively dull Cmaj7 there.
     
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    thanks for this amaxing contribution. now I just have to work!
     
  13. jazztele

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    just an update...

    after playing around a little more, i like a good old fashioned F major chord on "string" more than the Fmaj7. that might be one of the most brilliant "resolutions" i've ever heard--somehow tyner manages to resolve and create tension at he same time! ridiculous!
     
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    That really does sound like resolution and tension a the same time. To me it's because the ear is anticipating the C Major but what you get is a C6sus4 fragment. I have really enjoyed this arrangement. Keeping a 3/4 pedal going with the thumb while experimenting with the timing of the chord punches yields some cool sounds. Now it's time to work on some alternate chord shapes.
     
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    Great lesson!

    Could I presume upon your extremly good nature to record it for us to hear sometime?

    Thanks
     
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    Thanks JT, great lesson!

    / Tony
     
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    McCoy Tyner! Yes!

    This whole thread has been an education in a nutshell. Thanks to all.




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