Music Man 210 65

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  1. jsnwhite619

    jsnwhite619 Friend of Leo's

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    A buddy of mine just picked one up and has only sent pictures of it. I haven't seen it in person yet.

    He said the only issue he knows is the half power switch doesn't work. It looks great, original MM speakers.

    Anyway, figured I would check here first. Is the half power switch a common issue or problem? Anything to immediately look for when I get to see it?

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  2. joe_cpwe

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    1/2 power switch on a Music Man doesn't really affect that amp the way modern amps significantly cut the volume/output so it may not be broke. I'm not a tech so I can't explain more, but I've owned a couple MMs. I also have a few new amps and the 1/2 power switches on the new amps make a much more noticeable difference.
     
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    Do you mean that the amp does not have any output in lo power mode? Or that the amp does not reduce output volume when in low power mode? I have a Music Man 210 sixty-five that I just got, and I can hear a difference between hi and lo power mode, though it is very subtle. I am still learning my way around it, but from what I have observed: When set to 'Hi', you get the full 65 watts of headroom and a nice clean fender-like tone. on 'Lo' power mode, the headroom lowers on the amp to around 30 watts of headroom (my guess)? There is a very subtle volume drop on mine when I switch to 'Lo' power mode, and it does get a bit of edge to it's tone with my G&L MFD pickups. Also, on my amp, I notice that the indicator light's glow on the amp changes depending on what setting I have it on. When I switch to 'Hi' mode: The light is on full blast. When I switch the amp on 'Lo' mode, the amp's light gets just a little bit dimmer.
    My Music Man 210 is a very early first generation model with the sixty-five spelled out, and with the 12ax7 phase inverter. My amp was only lightly used as the amp only had one owner before me, who only played this amp around his house. Pretty much brand-new and everything is original. Except for one speaker which I just replaced because the original has developed tears in it. About to replace the other for the same reason. I am no tech, but I hope this can be of some help.
    Good luck!:)
     
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    MM did that half power circuit two different ways. The first method cut voltage to the entire circuit. That is not a good way to go about that. The second approach cut voltage to the power tubes and left the rest of the circuit at ‘proper’ voltages. There is a model number on that amp on the back panel. That might tell you what version you have there.
     
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    I've had a 212 65 and 210 65- I assumed the half power worked but I could not really tell a difference either way...so maybe it works? Of course these are loud clean amps so its tough to tell if its working or not. I really like the clean tones but I struggled to get a good overdriven sound out of them
     
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    Half power does not result in a cut t 50% of the original. One has to cut the output power by a factor of 10 to accomplish that.
     
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    Overdrive with a MM amp. Ime, you dime the mids while pulling the treble and especially bass back a bit. Push the preamp to taste. They will overdrive in this manner.
     
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    I still haven't seen it yet in person, but he gigged it last night. Said he loved it, clean & loud.

    As far as the low power switch, he said the light doesn't come on and no output, so definitely not working there.
     
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    That is probably my favorite Music Man amp.

    I had a choice to buy either a '50's Telecaster RI or a MM 65 210. They really sounded good together and I wish I could have bought both. I still have the Tele!
     
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