MSRP, rant

[WetBandit]

So, I'm looking to buy the new Marshall studio classic head from sweetwater...

I notice on their website it says the price is $1299.99 wich is exactly what Marshall said they will be at NAMM...

So under that price it says "SWEETWATER SAVINGS, $500.00" "MSRP $1800.00"

Now is it just me, or is that just a blatant lie to make it appear you are getting a deal...

I mean the manufacturer themselves (Marshall) said the price is $1299.99.... so they never suggested or even hinted it is or was gonna be $1800.00

Why would they even do that, it makes them look bad?

I'm still buying the head from them, and will continue doing business with them, but this is kinda off putting.

What do yall think?

 

[geoff_in_nc]

Did Marshall say MSRP at NAMM, or street price?

 

[charlie chitlin]

It's one of those games retailers have played for so long, they probably don't even realize they're doing it.
Like sticking the 9/10 on the per gallon price of gas.
If you think about these things, they do start to seem disingenuous...like, why bother with an MSRP when you have already established the street price?
I just try to ignore crap like that.

 

[getbent]

man... thanks for your service... I heard namm was rough. I've seen the movies... but it looks like it was insane.

 

[Telepirate86]

It seems like a lot of companies do that. The local music shop here does that, only they dont say msrp..they just cross odd the mark price and list the going price as sale price. I wouldnt say they aee lying

 

[WetBandit]

Did Marshall say MSRP at NAMM, or street price?

I mean we are talking about a retailer... not what you can buy it in a back alley for.

MSRP is what they said it would be $1299.99

The whole thing is silly to me.

 

[Telepirate86]

If fix my typos but the edit button takes 10 minutes to load

 

[rich815]

It seems like a lot of companies do that. The local music shop here does that, only they dont say msrp..they just cross odd the mark price and list the going price as sale price. I wouldnt say they aee lying

I believe some states have laws that you can’t do that unless the product actually was listed and did sell at that crossed-out price for a certain time. How much it’s enforced is another story.

https://content.next.westlaw.com/Do...&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true&bhcp=1

“...most states have consumer protection statutes that prohibit sellers from making false or misleading statements of fact concerning the reasons for, existence of, or amount of a price reduction (for example, Cal. Civ. Code § 1770(a)(13)). Several states also expressly regulate the length of time an item must be offered at a regular price and amount of time it is on sale...”

 

[WetBandit]

It seems like a lot of companies do that. The local music shop here does that, only they dont say msrp..they just cross odd the mark price and list the going price as sale price. I wouldnt say they aee lying

But they are... Marshall has said from the start the price is and will be $1299 at no point was $1800 mentioned or suggested by Marshall.

So the 1800 is a simple fabrication of Sweetwaters marketing team...

A LIE.

 

[WetBandit]

If fix my typos but the edit button takes 10 minutes to load

I feel your pain brother... just had to do it myself.

 

[waparker4]

Every retailer does this, not just Sweetwater, and not just music instruments. The MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) is from Marshall not Sweetwater. Your criticism of Sweetwater in particular is unfounded.

 

[tery]

The only thing I worry about is the "out the door" price I pay that includes tax , and shipping .

 

[SacDAve]

I don't buy anything from sweetwater, my last purchase was about 4 years ago I did a Pro Tools upgrade the salesman completely lied about the annual fee cost.

 

[Tuneup]

So, I'm looking to buy the new Marshall studio classic head from sweetwater...

I notice on their website it says the price is $1299.99 wich is exactly what Marshall said they will be at NAMM...

So under that price it says "SWEETWATER SAVINGS, $500.00" "MSRP $1800.00"

Now is it just me, or is that just a blatant lie to make it appear you are getting a deal...

I mean the manufacturer themselves (Marshall) said the price is $1299.99.... so they never suggested or even hinted it is or was gonna be $1800.00

Why would they even do that, it makes them look bad?

I'm still buying the head from them, and will continue doing business with them, but this is kinda off putting.

What do yall think?

What do I think? It's a standard marketing technique, I don't pay any attention to it I just focus on what I actually have to pay.
https://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-MAR-SC20H-LIST
https://www.zzounds.com/item--MSHSC20H

 

[BigDaddyLH]

man... thanks for your service... I heard namm was rough. I've seen the movies... but it looks like it was insane.

 

[WetBandit]

Every retailer does this, not just Sweetwater, and not just music instruments. The MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) is from Marshall not Sweetwater. Your criticism of Sweetwater is unfounded.

No... its not , maybe you should read my posts... Marshall NEVER mentioned $1800 EVER...

It was $1299 from the start... so the $1800 is a fabrication.... plain and simple.

So no, not unfounded.

And I'm still buying from them and will continue to, but I think this particular practice is repulsive and disingenuous.

 

[BigDaddyLH]

No... its not , maybe you should read my posts... Marshall NEVER mentioned $1800 EVER...

It was $1299 from the start... so the $1800 is a fabrication.... plain and simple.

So no, not unfounded.

And I'm still buying from them and will continue to, but I think this particular practice is repulsive and disingenuous.

What until Marshall sets the MSRP. I bet it will be $1800. If there are different MSRP and street prices, is that disingenuous, or just how every single manufacturer rolls?

 

[Cobra1957]

I remember when the 2007 GT500 Shelby Cobra Mustang came out. The MSRP was $44,000 they sold for $65,000 plus. Some as much as $75,000, dealer markup is what I was told. Hell you needed to put down $10,000 if you wanted to test drive one and that was non-refundable!
Do they want a non-refundable deposit just to try one out...

 

[nojazzhere]

So, I'm looking to buy the new Marshall studio classic head from sweetwater...

I notice on their website it says the price is $1299.99 wich is exactly what Marshall said they will be at NAMM...

So under that price it says "SWEETWATER SAVINGS, $500.00" "MSRP $1800.00"

Now is it just me, or is that just a blatant lie to make it appear you are getting a deal...

I mean the manufacturer themselves (Marshall) said the price is $1299.99.... so they never suggested or even hinted it is or was gonna be $1800.00

Why would they even do that, it makes them look bad?

I'm still buying the head from them, and will continue doing business with them, but this is kinda off putting.

What do yall think?

Back in the eighties, Sears got in a lot of trouble with the feds, for promoting "sale" prices in appliances that were perpetual......their final agreement in court was that an item could only be
"ON SALE" less than 50% of the time. That didn't mean that it ever had to SELL for that price, just couldn't be advertised as such. Montgomery Ward tried for a while to have "Everyday Low Prices" pricing, meaning it NEVER sold for less, but consumers were so conditioned to waiting for a sale, they just wouldn't believe it would never go lower.....that program lasted less than a year.
I NEVER pay attention to MSRP.....the only thing that matters to me is ACTUAL price I have to pay!

 

[WetBandit]

What do I think? It's a standard marketing technique, I don't pay any attention to it I just focus on what I actually have to pay.
https://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-MAR-SC20H-LIST
https://www.zzounds.com/item--MSHSC20H

Oh, I'm not saying others dont do it, this is just the first time I actually noticed it.