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Most resonant inexpensive archtop?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by drmordo, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. Flakey

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    NICE playing and both guitars sound amazing! I looked up Monteleone and found this nice tribute by Knopfler with scenes from the workshop.
     
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    If you want an arch top with good acoustics it has to be made as an acoustic guitar with NO pickup/s in the body. The early arch tops had floating pickups, which some were mounted on a rail and the pickup could slide for different positions and some attached to the neck P1000674.jpg . IMO buying an electric acoustic to play acoustically is an oxymoron. It just doesn't make it. If you've ever played a good acoustic arch top or listened to someone playing one and then listen to someone playing an acoustic/electric there's no comparison. An arch top guitar with pickups in the body is an electric guitar, not an acoustic.
     
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    I have an old F-hole Kay that does the trick. You can buy one for a couple hundred bucks if you can find them.
     
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    Been reading this thread just to learn stuff!

    Several mentions: the f-hole guitars project sound forward - not so much upwards to where the players can hear themselves.

    Sound port in the player-side upper-side, anyone? Retro-customize or custom order, I guess would be required, one.

    (tribute vid in post #62, Mr Monteleone has created some (ok, different type of guitar) w/upper side sound port)
     
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    I have a Heritage Eagle that I like a lot. Got it used for $1100. It has a floating pickup. original1.Heritage Eagle - 8 of 9.jpg
     
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    I came to mention Godin, but that has been well covered!

    But after reading this thread, I have a questions for @Chicago Matt, @Martian, @mfguitar, @runstendt, or anybody else with experience with Washburn jazz boxes: Could you comment on the neck dimensions and shape re those guitars? I've seen some things suggesting that Washburn necks are on the narrower side, but I haven't been able to find actual specs from a source I'd consider reliable.
     
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    I can only say for my J6-S. It reminds me of some of the Gibson necks I've played, about the same radius. I would call the profile somewhat of a shallow C.
    It's 3/4" deep at the nut and slightly thicker at the heel.
    Scale length is 25 1/4".
    The fingerboard width is 1 5/8" at the nut and 2 1/8" at the other end. Hope this helps.
     
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    I think I got mine around 2008. Here are the specs, as far as I can tell.

    Nut width: 1 11/16"
    Neck depth: 3/4"
    12 Fret width: 2 1/16"
    Scale Length: 24 3/4"
    Body Depth: 2 7/8"

    As far as the neck shape goes, I think it is more along the lines of a C shape. I'm not very good at telling the different shapes, I either like them or I don't. It's round, and it does not have any rounded "corners" like some guitars do. The best I can do is compare it to other guitars that I like. I love the G&L #1 neck profile, and I think that the Washburn neck is similar to that.

    Pretty, isn't it?

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    Hi Billy,
    John has been putting Side-Sound on his carved tops and flat tops since The Blue Guitars collection was commissioned by the late Scott Chinery in 1998. The guitar John made for me last year has the Side Sound. I also own a 1930 Gibson L-5 as you may have seen, and despite its not having a side port, it's very, very easy to hear.

    The lap slide archtop that John made for my friend Ben Harper actually has a Side Sound port on the treble side lower bout, facing the audience!

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    You, my friend, got a screaming deal.
     
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    My Washburn J600- I would not call it thin, similar to a Les Paul in my opinion, D shape
    Width
    Nut 1 21/32
    12th Fret 2 3/64

    Thickness
    Nut 7/8
    12th Fret 1 1/64
     
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    Well it's not a single neck pickup archtop, but my 2 pickup, full hollowbody 2013 Gibson L4CES sounds great acoustically. Carved solid spruce top, solid mahogany back, sides and neck with ebony fretboard.

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    The neck on my Washburn is great. I don’t have it with me at the moment so I can’t be specific but to me it’s just really comfortable.
     
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    As others have mentioned, the Loar archtops are a good value. I bought an Eastman 371ce (single PU) and a Loar 350 at the same time for comparison a few years ago. They are both bottom of their respective lines of archtops but never the less, good values. Aside from the obvious visual similarities they are very different but I still have them and like them for different reasons.

    The Loar has a solid spruce top and it is satisfying to play amplified or unamplified. It doesn't have the volume and depth of flattops but very good balanced acoustic tone. There are some design choices that are interesting such as the 'shallow' arch which translates to lower neck angle and bridge height. Also has wider neck (1-3/4" at the nut).
     
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    I'll say it again: in the "budget" price range for a true acoustic arch top, The Loar LH-300 is about the best thing you'll find (assuming you're ok with MIC). I think they're overpriced at $799, but if you're patient you'll find a used one for $400 or less. I lucked out with mine at $185.

    Here's one that sounds really nice:



    This guy talks too much, but this gives a good idea of its tone, too. Skip to 4:36 for when the playing starts. Mine sounds pretty much just like this one.

     
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    For resonance and a good price....I really like my buddy's 20 year-old Casino. I know a lot of folks find the pickups leave something to be desired- but they can be replaced.

    I have an Epiphone ES175. The thin finish accentuates the hollow body character and the Gibson '57s complete the effect, when plugged in. They were a limited run- but if you see one for sale, I'd recommend you take a look......

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    That bottom video is convincing , he plays like I once did so putting myself into the picture was easy, sold. Except, hey I already bought one? Not a Loar but close enough lmao
     
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    I have one. I love it. Not suited for strumming but finger style it's nice. Right now I have D'Addario EJ18 Heavy (14-59) on it tuned a full step down. They have been on it since April of last year and the neck relief nor action hasn't changed. I was going to upgrade the bridge but the intonation is so good I'm going to leave it be.

    I'll probably go down to the EJ17 set I when I change them though, and just tune down a half step.

    It's so comfortable to play standing or sitting. I never installed the pick guard.

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    Fretboard looks a lot darker in person. That's a crappy phone photo.
     
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