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most efficient and bullet proof 8" speaker?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by DjimiWrey, Nov 26, 2020.

  1. DjimiWrey

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    blew the speaker in my super champ x2 after pushing her wide open for a couple of hours

    the weight of that little amp was a huge relief for my screwed up back and twin reverb loving ears

    any suggestions for an 8" replacement that can handle such abuse?

    cheers ciao and happy holidaze
     
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    What speaker was in there? Isn't a 10" in the SC X2?

    - Bob
     
  3. PhredE

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    Yeah, that is a 10" -- luckily. If it were an 8" the potential options would be minute by comparison.

    Of course, if a person really wanted to fit an 8" it could probably be done with an adapter ring.

    Edit: Oh, just another note -- those Eminence OEM Fender speakers are fairly unexceptional as far as efficiency goes. Usually, they are something like 94db, 95db, maybe 96db. If it is 94db, you can effectively double your output by going with a speaker rated about 100db or better.
     
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    Unless OP has the Vibro Champ XD ?
    It had less output with an 8"
    Maybe Fender made an Vibro Champ X2? ( just like Suoer Champ XD> X2)

    Any way, I'd recommend a Celestion 8" ( with proper impedance)- I have one in my Pathfinder

    And an an Eminence Legend 1058 ( love mine in a Frontman 25R) or Ragin' Cajun if a 10"
     
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    Ragin' Cajun in my SCX2 sounds great. Fender uses them in their special edition versions. Can't go wrong with that.
     
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    For smaller Champ-type speakers, I like Webers. Way over-spec'd and they sound great.
     
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    For a Champ X2, my choice would be an Eminence 10" Cannabis Rex. This is now available in 10".

    I put an Eminence 8" 100 watt mid range PA speaker in my Champion 20 and never looked back. I love it! When I add my compression & delay pedals, I swear it sounds like 30 watts (not 20). It is LOUD and all TONE.
     
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    I have the Vibro with the 8", its a tough little speaker! I haven't been able to kill it yet. Its way better than the stock one in my SF Champ, fart city if you even look at the bass knob.
    Pretty sure OP is wanting a 10", I've not seen a Super Champ with a 8".
     
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    8-9 lbs for a higher efficient speaker, 4.5 lbs for a neo speaker. Sometimes 4-5 lbs makes a difference.
     
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    No matter what you put into an SCX2, measure the available space vs. the dimensions of the speaker. The power tubes will interfere with many "deep" speakers. You may have to remove the speaker bell.
     
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    My favourite and the best 8" speaker I have heard is the Eminence 820H so called Chemp speaker just a great sounding speaker in my opinion,
     
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    forgive my misinformation on this super champ x2

    the opening on the front of the baffle board i 8"

    does that mean the speaker is 10"?

    thanks for the input
     
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    thanks for the input. it's only a 15 watt amp so a 100 watt speaker should be safe enough:)
    wish there were an easier way to test the speakers out.. they're usually not returnable
     
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    For either it would be a Weber 8F150 or 10F150 for me.
     
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    Seems like efficient (tight voice coil gap) and "bulletproof" (resistant to damage) would be conflicting goals...
     
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    thanks. it's a super champ x2 and i measured the opening on the front of the baffle board at 8";
    upon further consideration it may be a 10" speaker?
     
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    I put a Jensen Mod 8-20 in my Vox AD15VT well over a decade ago (is more like a decade and a half, at this point). It's been working well all this time, so it could be argued that a 20 watt speaker in a 15 watt amp should be adequate.

    It looks like the Mod 8-20 is currently a little over 30 bucks from some of the big box stores, so it should be a fairly cheap experiment.

    Jensen also offers the C8R (rated at 25 watts), and that looks like it's about 40 bucks new, so that might be another option. I have no experience with the C8R though, but I can vouch that the Mod 8-20 sounds great (IMO) in my AD15VT.
     
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    Looks to me like it uses a 10". In that case, I'd probably personally look at the different offerings from Eminence:
    • Legend 1058
    • Copperhead
    • Ragin Cajun
    • GA10-SC64
    Any of the above should handle 15 watts just fine.
    The GA10-SC64 is my favorite in my BF'ed '71 Vibrolux Reverb, but that's JMO.
     
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    I know they are different amplifiers but I think of my frontman 25r as being the solid state version of the clean side of a Super Champ XD
    I recently put in the Eminence Legend 1058 speaker into the frontman and it sounds fantastic just nice full body great EQ bass middle treble just a friendly speaker with plenty of output
     
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