Morrissey Simpsons debacle
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Benedict Cumberbatch voiced the Simpsons character. Any Cumberb!tches on TDPRI?
BorderRadio
Doctor of Teleocity
If he wants to apologize, sincerely, what's the problem? Accountability should go in all directions but people, you know, make excuses. If Azaria's anecdote is true, cool, if not, I'm still not surprised. Outrage? That's a bit over the top for a 'cartoon', no?
The old-school indignant, starboard-leaning folks want to blame 'PC' in any way possible, as they feel accosted in all directions
Sometimes, people just don't like to face crap.
He's got some good songs. This one references Los Angeles, and I like to play this on guitar and sing, hopefully not too Moz-like.
I also really like this one, which references the Kray twins.
I also really like this one, which references the Kray twins.
I tend to think Morrissey is a smart guy. If he had come up voice appreciating the caricature, it would not have even been a footnote in the news.
He's probably laughing all the way to the bank at the renewed interest in his catalog created by the current media buzz.
When you're in the business as long as he's been, you learn what puts the bacon in the fridge.
If he wants to apologize, sincerely, what's the problem? Accountability should go in all directions but people, you know, make excuses. If Azaria's anecdote is true, cool, if not, I'm still not surprised. Outrage? That's a bit over the top for a 'cartoon', no?
The old-school indignant, starboard-leaning folks want to blame 'PC' in any way possible, as they feel accosted in all directions
I m not outraged, actually, i am neither american, nor overweight, nor a hillbilly, and so on. What i find silly is why people do feel attacked when they see a cartoon character ? Of course he is a stereotype, that is what makes him appealing.
The thing is, everytime an artist / entertainer says / does/ creates something, he has to walk on eggs. (is that english ?)
Art cannot be safe, it has got challenge your ideas and opinions, otherwise, what is the point ?
It is beyond me.
Of course, if he wants to apologize and it is heartfelt, it is up to him. However if he was compelled to apologize because of the pressure surrounding the apu character, This is sad. Really, really, sad.
edit 2 : Imagine the army of lawyers behind the guys making south park, and if they had to apologize for 20 years of fun insanity.
Ron R
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THis just provides further evidence that Morrissey is a whinebag who takes himself far too seriously.
Whatizitman
Poster Extraordinaire
I agree. Simpsons should have ended before 2000. Could have quit while it was still "safe" to make fun of anyone and everyone. Not that it was right. Just that it was. When was the last media frenzy about Archie Bunker, the friendly neighborhood racist? Exactly.
Morrissey? Haven't given him an ear since Queen is Dead.
Morrissey? Haven't given him an ear since Queen is Dead.
Eh, Moz always was a pretty dour character.
I, too, wonder how he wrote some of the funniest lyrics ever to grace a rock and roll song.
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I, too, wonder how he wrote some of the funniest lyrics ever to grace a rock and roll song.
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northernguitar
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The Simpsons is way past their best before date. Ruffling Morrissey’s feathers is a good thing.
I still enjoy them, and they still have at least 1 or 2 jokes / episode which will make me laugh. Plus, they have been there for ? 32 years or something. This is quite an accomplishment, for a cartoon !
He does a great Sherlock Holmes!
maxvintage
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Both Morrissey and the Simpsons are past their sell-by date. I'll take the Simpson for sure if I have to pick--Morrissey seems like a creep
Edgar Allan Presley
Friend of Leo's
The Simpsons have their first few minutes of cultural relevance in 20 years by making fun of a pop singer from the 1980s.
421JAM
Tele-Afflicted
The Simpsons is just as good as it ever was.
Any time you experience any form of entertainment hundreds of times, it’s going to seem like it’s not good anymore, or not as good as it was when it was new. But that’s not them. That’s you.
If The Simpson’s was a brand new show today, people would find it hilarious and cutting edge. Because it is.
Any time you experience any form of entertainment hundreds of times, it’s going to seem like it’s not good anymore, or not as good as it was when it was new. But that’s not them. That’s you.
If The Simpson’s was a brand new show today, people would find it hilarious and cutting edge. Because it is.
I don’t understand why Morrissey sees it as hateful. Educate me, please.
He’s portrayed as young, relevant, and in shape. He is not.
Maybe it’s because his flat is a mess?
Best publicity he’s had in a while. Thank The Simpsons and while you’re at it thank Johnny Marr, the reason you had such success. And don’t be that guy yelling at cartoons.
And another edit to say they nailed his giant eyebrows.
He’s portrayed as young, relevant, and in shape. He is not.
Maybe it’s because his flat is a mess?
Best publicity he’s had in a while. Thank The Simpsons and while you’re at it thank Johnny Marr, the reason you had such success. And don’t be that guy yelling at cartoons.
And another edit to say they nailed his giant eyebrows.
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loopfinding
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gee, it's always surprising that the least trippy or groundbreaking of the group - smiths, cure, new order, depeche mode - has the biggest sense of unwarranted self importance.
Who's Morrissey Simpson?
pypa
Tele-Afflicted
It's a dangerous thing to tell others they ae not allowed to feel offended at something. As an Indian American, the Apu thing is less about the character existing, and more about the people around me trying to understand how it might make me feel instead of only how it makes them laugh. Personally, I think a lot about sensitivity is just that: listening, not cancelling, and certainly not condemning either side.
As for Morrissey, I am a conflicted super fan. I found the Simpson's character a little mean to an individual in ways that were irrelevant or generalized. Meanness doesn't do it for me these days.
As for Morrissey, I am a conflicted super fan. I found the Simpson's character a little mean to an individual in ways that were irrelevant or generalized. Meanness doesn't do it for me these days.
OmegaWoods
Tele-Afflicted
Meh.
If I could go back in time 15 minutes, I could play my Tele instead of read this thread and "educate" myself on this "controversy."
If I could go back in time 15 minutes, I could play my Tele instead of read this thread and "educate" myself on this "controversy."
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