Modulation effects and distortion

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TeleBrew

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Even though I keep reading (including the pedal board article in the new Guitar Player) that modulation effects should go after distortion, I think my Voodoo Lab Microvibe sound WAY better in front of my Voodoo Lab Superfuzz, rather than after it. The difference in sound quality (to my ears) is huge.

I used to have a Phase 90, and I liked it better before distortion/OD, too.

What do you all think?
 

biker joe

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I think even Mike Fuller of Fulltone suggests that you put univibe effects (like his deja vibe) before distortion. That is where Trower puts his. I used to have mine after distortion until I read about this and now agree that it sounds better upfront. I think there are always going to be a few exceptions to the standard rule of effects order (as summed up in this month's guitar player). Don't a lot of people put their phase 90s before distortion too?
 

Axis29

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To me it's more logical to put everything before distortion/overdrive. I mean, even the effects loop is before your power tubes... and this is where we all wish we had the most distortion, right? It's what I use an overdrive for, to push my amp into a little bit more breakup.

Although, maybe a Fuzz is different? Lance brought over a couple for me to try the other day and told me to put them up front... Now, I'm thinking about that too. Though I do remember reading something somewhere about fuzzes wanting a strong signal?

Distortion/Overdrive is usually next to last in my chain (not that it's a huge chain), I currently have my delay afterwards, though I may play with that some (now that I think about it). I may stick my distortion in at the very last and see what it sounds like for a while.

Of course, the bottom line is, we all want to be rebels and do our own thing! So, do what sounds best to you, of course!
 

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I prefer a lot of modulation effetcs before distortion. I also use a Micro Vibe and a Phase 100 before - you need to a noise gate though!

I have used chorus before and after and like both. Remember, a lot of classic rock sounds with pedals were created before we had effects loops so the pedal was just stuck in front of an already dirty amp.
 
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