Mix feedback needed - Stoner Rock / Heavy Psychedelic Rock

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  1. Bungler

    Bungler TDPRI Member

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    Looking for some advice on this mix from my new band (Mojo Bozo's Electric Circus); our fist single off an upcoming LP. Going through some ups and downs with my personal opinion of it and currently getting a little in over my head, thus seeking some feedback. I am mixing this myself.

    I won't mention my concerns so you won't have any bias. Let me know what you think.

    Thanks in advance!

    P.S. Mix is unmastered, no master bus limiting. All guitars are a telecaster!

     
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  2. woodman

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    Pasting the link turns up an error message.



    Going to your page on SC, the only file that shows up is your demo track.



    Are you sure it uploaded to SC? Are you sure you hit "Save" before you left the page?
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    All fixed, proper embedded player is up at the top in my post. Thanks Woodman!
     
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    Sounds pretty good, but the main problem I see is that those guitars are getting into your vocal pretty hard. You might try devising an EQ strategy where the vocal sweet spot is notched out on both guitars, then give each guitar a similar treatment so they're distinct from each other. If your DAW has automation (most do), you could automate the notching so it kicks in only during the singing. ... Drums are fat! Pretty compressed, but I guess that's the norm with this kind of music (not my area of expertise). In fact the whole thing sounds pretty compressed considering you got no limiting across the master bus. ... The mix hangs together, though, and that's the important thing.
     
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    @Bungler....Killer band name!

    Some pretty good playing and singing and a song that kept my interest though a few listens.

    I get what Woody is saying, and he is the Master. There are some balance issues, and the song doesn't have much dynamic range.

    To my ears, the biggest issue is the overall (im)balance across the spectrum which didn't help the clarity at all. When I played your tune with an analyzer in the loop it confirmed what I was hearing.

    Through most of the song, the highest energy peak was around 160-200 Hz, with a two octave wide scoop centered around 450 Hz that was as much as 6 dB deep a lot of the time. The top end dropped off at around 9 dB/octave above 3kHz or so which is pretty steep. That's gonna sound muddy every time.

    The fact that all the instruments were effected makes me wonder if some eq was applied to the master buss, and/or if the monitors in the room need some tweaks.

    I am not a metal head, I don't listen to much that is heavier than Metallica or Queens of the Stone Age, but they have a wider frequency range that is much more flat.

    Free advice that isn't worth much, make sure you can trust your room and your monitors, and make sure each and every track sounds great by itself. You will probably have to make adjustments to get each track to sit in the mix just right, but your tracks should sound good first.

    What does this sound like with all the eq's and comps bypassed?

    I am guessing if you compare your mix with some reference tracks that you like, you will hear a big difference.

    I don't mean to be Debbie Downer, you have got some dam good players and a cool tune that just needs some TLC, and maybe a fresh set of ears.

    Good luck!
     
  6. Geoff738

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    I liked the tune. I can’t really comment on the mix. Not my genre. Having a couple Redd Cross records don’t count. Also, studio is packed way and I’m listening through my iPads speakers. Given all that it came across ok. But I wasn’t really listening with a critical perspective cuz, iPad! That said the song still came across which is the main thing. The only thing I’ll say about the above comments is my limited knowledge of stoner rock is it’s kinda known for being sludgy.

    That being said, doesn’t hurt to take input from those who’ve given a critical listen and see what you can take from it. Having another set of ears, or a few as here, can be a fantastic way to get a check on what you’re hearing. You may not agree with everything but seeing what others are hearing is a great learning tool. I guess a little caveat is that SoundCloud can do some funny things to your audio so check that it is at least in the ballpark.

    Ok, since I wrote that I listened a few more times. Still on iPad. Still the song. Think the drums are maybe too forward or disconnected feeling with the rest of the tune. They need to be driving but they may be a bit too hot or not in the same sonic space as the rest of the tracks or it could be I’m just listening on a crap playback medium and my opinion is therefore not worth much.

    Can you tell I’ve had a couple pints. The thing is that though this is almost all subjective. You know this genre better than most of us do. Use reference cds of what you’re aiming for. A/B with your stuff at the same volume. That is critical. Same volume. Louder almost always sounds better. Compare and contrast at the same volume.

    Ok, rambling now. Would love to hear another take on this.

    Cheers,
    Geoff
     
  7. Slim

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    I think it sounds amazing for a DIY mix, but you're probably noticing the limitations of not having a professional master (e.g., not super "open" or wide, like a blanket over the speakers). What you've done on your own sounds great - but a lot of that familiar, polished sound you hear on the radio comes from dedicated (and expensive) mastering houses that have tools that make a recording jump out of a car stereo, home stereo, laptop...
     
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