MIM 50s Esquire converted to tele value?

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  1. Bones

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    Local shop has a black MIM Esquire that has been converted to tele specs it's a little heavy but in very good shape. I would like to buy it and put it back to Esquire specs.

    Only problem is, they have it priced at $550.00.

    Without taking it apart , I can't even tell if it's not just a total partscaster with an Esquire neck,

    I'm thinking that $350-$400 would be more like it even if it is an Esquire with an added pup.

    Thoughts
     
  2. Grabsplatter

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    Isn't that more than it would've been new?
     
  3. Bones

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    the most current retail price is $799.00
     
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    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    Its a classic 50s, whether it is esquire-d or tele-d. They usually go for 450-500. 350 would be nice, but not expected.
     
  5. Bones

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    Well that's the whole thing, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Could just be an Esquire neck on an MIM standard body with a vintage style Fender bridge. The saddles are brass not chrome like they are on the 50s Esquire. But again, that's something people change to taste.
     
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    Sounds like you have concerns at the price point. Regardless of any of our opinions, don't pay more than you are comfortable. Another suggestion, get the serial number and reach out to Fender. They will send you the specs and it should help you determine what is legit.
     
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    You could poke these points at the seller see if he'd be willing to have it dismantled to check the body, pups, wiring, bridge, etc.
     
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  8. KevinB

    KevinB Doctor of Teleocity

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    Can you look under the pickguard? A MIM Standard would have an HB route at the neck. A Classic 50's would have a vintage SC route.
     
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    I'm off tomorrow, so hopefully the place will be quiet and I can convince them to let me poke around and find those things out.
     
  10. GuitarJonz

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    Removing 5 screws to look under the pickguard is not asking too much. If they are really feeling charitable, 2 more screws lets you look under the control plate.
     
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    And of course a MIM standard would be drilled for more than a 5 screw pickguard!
     
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    The 50s Classic Esquire does have a heavy Ash body so your comment about the weight probably indicates a genuine one.
     
  13. Bones

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    well, it has an 8 screw 3 ply w/b/w guard on it
     
  14. Asmith

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    That probably indicates the partscaster idea definitely get a good look at it if your considering it or push a very good price for it.
     
  15. KevinB

    KevinB Doctor of Teleocity

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    Can you say "Red Flag"!

    The originals had a one-ply, 5 hole white.
     
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    The guy that had it converted it to Tele specs. Probably replaced the pickguard with a newer one (as opposed to routing the orig.), not necessarily a red flag.
     
  17. Asmith

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    You'd have thought he would have opted for a new 5 hole guard though, if you take the guard off you might be able to tell if the 2 holes are new (they may look a little different as if they were made by someone forcing the screw into the wood).
     
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    it is funny to me that anyone would buy one of the least common/highly regarded production models and then turn it into a standard telecaster. I have turned teles into Esquires but would never do the opposite.
     
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    How do you tell an Esquire body? Don't the MIM Classic 50s Esquire bodies come routed for a neck p'up, anyway? I thought that was the case, but I could be wrong.

    If so, then the number of p'guard screws will be the real tell.

    Scott
     
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    I guess it's one of those things if you bought the esquire you'd think you'd want an esquire, it only happens the other way around because any esquire is out of my budget so it does seem odd. Do you like the guitar though, because if you do it might be a chance to get a really good deal (if you convince the shop owner that it's a partscaster) on a fender body and neck, plus all the other fender bits.
     
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