Might be buying this player '66 Fender Jazz Bass!!!!

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  1. Texsunburst59

    Texsunburst59 Tele-Afflicted

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    The good stuff:

    * original neck
    * pickups and electronics(bridge pickup has been rewound
    * body is original but has a DIY paint job
    * bridge is original
    *pickguard is original

    The bad:

    * tuners are replacements
    * the body has a DIY paint job
    * there is no original case.

    I still need to go check it out in person to make sure it's worth the asking price.

    Here are some pics he sent me.


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  2. coldengray

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    Nice. Would make a great restoration project. What’s under the black paint?
     
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    Cool bass. I'm a sucker for old jazz basses. If the story checks out and its priced right it could be fun to spruce up. Does it have a brass nut? Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. Keep us posted and good luck.
     
  4. Texsunburst59

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    Yea, I think the brass nut and the thumb rest are not original to this bass.

    The thing is, the guy wants $3500 for it, but I really think that's way to much considering all the non original issues with it.

    I've talked to a few guys who know vintage gear and with what they said and posting on a few forums and they've all honed in on about the same fair offer.

    The consensus target offer is between $ 1800- $2000.

    I went ahead and offered the guy $1800 for it, and I gave him all the reasons for my offer.

    I haven't heard back yet,but if he turns my offer down, then I gladly move on.
     
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    That bass is worth less than the current American Original is, brand new.

    Fine bass, nice project, just pay accordingly.
     
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    Nut and thumb rest most assuredly not original. The bass looks quite cool though. For me it would depend on the condition of the neck, the other stuff would be relatively simple to remedy and keep true to it's age. Good hunting!
     
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    $3500 is quite high, your offer is more realistic.
    The thing with Jazz basses is the neck always--it is very long from the body, and much thinner than a Precision. Twists and turns are not uncommon. If there are, stay away.
     
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  8. Texsunburst59

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    Yeah pretty much everyone has said it's all about the neck.

    If the neck checks out all around, then it'll be worth buying for my offer.

    If not, then I'll pass.
     
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    $1500 might be to much.
     
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    Sweet bass but won't be yours for $1800 me thinks. A tad low on the price if the neck and body are 66.
    As pointed out by others, the brass nut, 80's metal Fender stamped tugbar, and tuners are all not original. The bridge too is not original. 66 to 68 would have spiral saddles. Correct 66 tuners would be the lollipop paddles. Repos are easy to get. Originals off Evilbay could cost you $600 to $900. Crazy yes ? Pickguard looks original.
    The bound neck was introduced first time in early 66 and blocks came in mid-late 66. Bound dot necks, considered by some as transitional, are highly prized by collectors, just saying. Stamped "F" neck plate is mid 65 to mid 76. Your serial number when checked against my serial data sheet is close to an October 66 Pbass.

    IMHO ..... I think $1800 is on the low side. I've seen partial restores going for $4500.00. I think $2500 to $3000 is a respectable number. Try it out and ask to see the neck stamp date, pickups, and wiring. Good luck. Wish I could try it out.
     
  11. Texsunburst59

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    Thanks for all the help and heads up BBM.

    I already offered him the $1800,but he hasn't responded yet.

    Hopefully he'll respond with a number and we can meet in the middle.

    I really would like to land it IF the neck checks out and is in good condition with no issues.
     
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    Funny thing is, if you were to part that bass out you’d probably make well over $3500 bucks. Something to consider if you do manage to strike a deal.
     
  13. Texsunburst59

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    It's funny that you mentioned that.

    I looked online for the going prices of all the parts that are original to the bass, and the individual parts sold separately would come out to $3K+.

    I hope to at least meet somewhere in the middle on the price when the seller and I do finally get to talk.
     
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    Looks cool, goid luck with scoring it!
     
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    I'm still waiting to hear back from the selling.

    Hoping he at least gives me a counter that we can negotiate with.
     
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    I suspect he considers it a lowball and is ghosting you. This happened to me when I was trying to negotiate for an old Vox that had irreparable Reverb and no grill cloth...the guy wanted top dollar, I made an offer and he wouldn’t engage in any further negotiations. People think they have won the lottery with a vintage piece, regardless of condition.
     
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    He's ghosting me for sure.

    The thing is, I'm willing to play the wait game.

    He's a pretty young guy who knows nothing about guitars or basses at all.

    He just happened to be at the right place at the right time and scored this bass for pennies.

    He doesn't have any connections with guys who can help him move it.

    The only guy he knew got him in contact with me.

    He's not going to put it on E-bay,Reverb, trying to put it on consignment or sell it to a music store.

    He wants to make TOP dollar on this bass.

    I know it's not going to happen, and he's going to get impatient, and then most likely call me back to offer it to me for the $1800 I offered.

    I'm not going to give him the $1800 because the ball will be in my court now.

    I'm going to offer him $1500 and say that's the best can do right now.

    If he say that' too little, I tell that's fine and let him walk.

    I will tell him before he leaves, that if he contacts me later and tries to offer it to me again, then my offer will now be $1200.
     
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    I have had success with offers such as you made.
    Sometimes you can be surprised and they accept.
    Other times it will draw them out and they will counter with about what they would take and you can work from there.
    But there are some guys that get their panties all in a wad and will not deal with you further cause you " low balled " them.
    Good luck.
    Half the fun is the negotiation
     
  19. Texsunburst59

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    He posted it on CL about 2 weeks ago for $2500 or best offer, and told me if it didn't sell, he'd then accept my offer.

    I've already moved on and have other vintage guitar opportunities in front of me that are much better.

    I'm actually glad that deal didn't come through.

    I'm playing match maker for a seller and buyer of a 60+ guitar collection.

    15+ are Vintage 60's Casino's,Sorrentos, and Olympic guitars.

    I'm making a commission from both the seller and the buyer for hooking them up.

    I might end up snagging one of the instruments when it's all said and done, but I'm happier taking the money and getting something I really want.

    Sometimes passing on a piece of gear opens up other opportunities down the road.
     
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