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Medium gain pedal for dirty amp

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by telereissue, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:28 PM.

  1. telereissue

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    What's your favorite? I'm wanting to boost my JTM 45 style amp into tight articulate gain. Medium gain pedal or distortion pedal? I need more compression.
     
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    It’s been a long time since I’ve owned a JTM45, but I think a treble booster works well if the amp is already breaking up. I’m partial to the Catalinbread Naga Viper because it has bass, output, and gain controls. It’s silicon and is a bit quieter than other treble boosters I’ve tried.
     
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    I would go with a treble booster or a Fuzz Face if I need more gain! You get everything from clean to insane only with your guitar volume knob. Once the amp starts cooking, nothing comes close to these two simple pedals.
     
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    I actually tried the Nagaviper and it did not agree well with this amp.

    Amp is a Magnatone Super 15. 20201113_195429.jpg
     
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    Many would be said but a BD-2 comes 1rst in mind
     
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    I have never tried the Naga Viper but I believe it is a Silicon variation on the Rangemaster circuit with some tweaks so strange it did not work. What was the issue? Too trebly or?
     
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    Was the amp cooking or clean? Treble boosters are horrible into a clean amp. They’re not for everyone, or every amp.
     
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    It made the amp looser and brittle.

    The tone of the amp is very much like a bluesbreaker style, but has el84s and breaks up easily. I'm wondering how a higher gain pedal would work with it.

    I can tell you what works with a tradeoff: my mxr classic overdrive on the ZW setting and my wampler ego compressor on. Gives it a great sound, but the trade off is a ton of noise. The classic od is the only one so far I've found to play nice with it.
     
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    The amp was rolling pretty good. It just didn't compliment it well, same with the Wampler Pantheon I tried.
     
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    I'm gonna 2nd or 3rd the treble booster, especially for an amp right at the edge or already going over....
     
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    The good old tubescreamer. Tightens the bottom end, pushed the upper mids into singing sustain, rolls off some high end without losing presence. My Maxon od808 does good things into an already dirty amp.

    YMMV
     
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    Yep. If a treble booster didn’t do it for ya maybe a good ol’ TS is the answer.
     
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    To the OP, at some point, the amps gain is going to over take any coloration from the pedal sitting in front of it. At lower gains, you would hear the sound of the tube screamer, but at higher gain settings, a treble booster and TS are going to be nearly indistinguishable except for the different in how they are eq'd and affect the frequencies being pushed in the amp.

    Another way to look at that is if the amp is cooking enough, dirt boxes boil down to EQ pedals that add gain. Given that, another pedal to consider would be the lowly eq pedal - adjust it how you like and boost the level to taste.
     
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    What about like a clean boost?
     
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    This is my setup btw. 16060798624401581688020817629228.jpg
     
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    Try a regular old Rat, no kidding.
     
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    Boss SD1 is a classic OD unit and a good alternative to a Tube Screamer.
     
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    The mxr classic overdrive is just that.
     
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    Well, a clean boost is going to push the whole frequency range, depending on how its eq'd, which *might* lead to a farting out / muddy low end. If you want "tight" I think you need to look at rolling off the low end before pushing the amp harder - depends on the amp of course, but generally speaking, I think thats how you get what you are asking for.

    The TS and Treble booster do exactly this, as well as many, if not most dirt boxes. Some however, keep the low end mostly intact, such as the OD-3, Nobels ODR-1, etc. Those probably won't get you the tight you are after.
     
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    I've got an AB box on order. This amp has a high and low gain input. I may just get a good plexi pedal and run it into the low gain side.
     
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