Making a "pop-killer" cable? (6g15 into a pedal)

[Euphonica]

Ho-kay. Welp, the cable with the inline resistor didn't work. I thought it did but the pops came right back. Is a 2.4M ohm resistor the correct value?

It happens with other trem pedals, not just the Surfy Trem.
If I play nothing, the pops are quiet or gone.
After I play a loud chord and engage a trem, the pop is very loud.
If I play normally for a few minutes and then switch on a trem, it pops loudly.
If I switch the pedal off and on a few times, the pops get quiet for a short while.

I was speaking to a former amp tech about this, but I wasn't able to get an answer. He said some components around the amp input (or somewhere) can cause a buildup of voltage (or something) and cause pops with any pedal. Does anyone know about this? What components could be responsible?

My rig is a wet / dry with the wet going through a '64 Fender 6g15, then both signals go through a couple stereo trem pedals, then from the stereo pedals into each amp. Amps are a '62 Bassman and another blonde Fender (usually a '61 Tremolux or a '62 Twin-Amp, sometimes the '61 Super). The full chain is:

Guitar -> Peterson strobe tuner -> Radial Big Head splitter
Output 1 -> '64 6g15 -> Surfy Trem input 1 -> EV Super Pulsar input 1 -> '62 Bassman
Output 2 -> Saturnworks buffered phase switch -> Surfy Trem input 2 -> EV Super Pulsar input 2 -> '62 Twin-Amp

I have experimented only using the guitar -> pedal -> amp setup and the pops are identical, so I don't think it's the splitter or phase switch, or the extra trem pedal.

Amps have been serviced, but they still have lots of old components. Any help would be VASTLY appreciated. I'm trying to record and those darn pops are driving me up the wall.

Thanks,
Dan

By the way, that Planet Waves cable is not a solution. I am experiencing the pops while switching trem pedals on and off while playing. So a kill switch cable belongs nowhere in this equation.

 

[Killing Floor]

The Surfy is magic. My favorite terms.
Watching for the solution.

 

[Euphonica]

Bump? Perhaps I should start a new thread. It seems too much to believe that no one here has any idea how to help with this...

 

[Mr Ridesglide]

i may have missed it - tried not to miss it but may have.

Have you tried ONLY -
guitar, tank, amp?
if you still have pops, switch guitars.
if you still have pops, switch cables.
if you still have pops, eliminate the tank.
if you still have pops, it's the amp. if no pops, could be the tank and they were/are known to have odd grounding issues.

Once you've figured out what the real problem is, then perhaps we go to step 2!

 

[tubeswell]

^what he said^

Also, please show us whereabouts the foot switch connects on the Surfy Bear schematic? (so we can understand the likely source of the problem)

 

[Euphonica]

Hello! I apologize for being vague, I thought I had already talked about the set up. The pops happen with all setups involving any pedal. I tried these setups (with other pedals as well):

guitar -> Surfy Trem Deluxe -> amp

And also

guitar -> 6g15 -> Surfy Trem Deluxe -> amp

I tried putting buffers between everything in every order I could think of, before, after, in the middle, just before the amp, and the pops remained. I tried it with about six different guitars.

The only switch being hit is the one on the SB pedal (or other test pedal), to engage and disengage the trem. I don't really understand the question about the schematic, because the pedal is unchanged.

It happens with other petals as well, not just the Surfy Bear. it happens without the reverb tank.

i may have missed it - tried not to miss it but may have.

Have you tried ONLY -
guitar, tank, amp?
if you still have pops, switch guitars.
if you still have pops, switch cables.
if you still have pops, eliminate the tank.
if you still have pops, it's the amp. if no pops, could be the tank and they were/are known to have odd grounding issues.

Once you've figured out what the real problem is, then perhaps we go to step 2!

If it is either the amp or the reverb tank, what solutions would you be looking for?

^what he said^

Also, please show us whereabouts the foot switch connects on the Surfy Bear schematic? (so we can understand the likely source of the problem)

The only switch being used is the switch on the pedal itself, no external foot switch.