Lynyrd Skynyrd Plane Crash - 40 Years Ago This Evening

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  1. tonytrout

    tonytrout Friend of Leo's

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    Like Elvis being gone forty years, it's hard for me to fathom that RVZ, Steve & Cassie Gaines, road manager, Dean Kilpatrick & pilot and co-pilot, Walter McCreary & William Gray were all lost 40 years ago this evening in Gillsburg, MS. Ronnie, depending on who you believe or talk to, was fighting Gene Odom as Odom tried to buckle him in before the crash (either that, or Gene left him asleep on the floor of the plane).

    Ronnie fulfilled his own self-prophecy of not living to see 30 and was on the road touring - The Tour Of The Survivors - when the plane crash happened.

    (I've always thought that was a pretty chilling thing to tell your father, "Daddy, I'll never live to see thirty!")

    As the years have passed, we have also lost:

    Allen Collins
    Leon Wilkeson
    Ean Evans
    Billy Powell

    That band has, IMO, endured the most tragedy that any one band would have to endure. Yet, even as a self-proclaimed tribute band, they're still out there night after night.

    May all who were lost rest peacefully.....

     
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    I was just watching the Lynyrd Skynyrd Behind The Music documentary (for the 3rd or 4th time) yesterday. What a tragedy.
    I wish they never got on that plane; the pilot said that there was trouble with one of the engines and they took off anyway. It united the survivors initially and then divided them. :(

    Here's a great live version, about three months before the crash.



    Rest in peace.
     
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    .......... :(
     
  4. Mike Eskimo

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    Steve Gaines !

    I think one of two things would have happened if they all lived :

    - Steve would have stayed for awhile and then split to do his own thing

    or

    - He would have taken over the band or at the very least ended up as co-leader with Ronnie.

    Dude was massively talented.

    We all know how fluid and seamless a guitar player he was but he was arguably as a good a singer as Ronnie .

    Hell - I wish they were all still here - especially Allen Collins.

    He was like a scrappy dog wagging his tail and then just ripping on the Explorer.
     
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    Ronnie Van Zandt was my idol 40 years ago. I was a sophomore in high school and I wanted to grow up to be a rock singer. I remember when I heard the announcement. Over the radio the next morning. I was on the school bus. They played Freebird (of course). I lived in the mountains and it was an 90 minute bus ride to school. That was one quiet bus that day.
     
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    90 minutes each way on a school bus! How did you do it?
     
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    Meanwhile, in New Orleans and other such places, recreational canoeing as a form of outdoor pursuit had really caught on in a big way. There's small rivers that flow all around in this part of Mississippi just North of the "Florida Parishes" of Louisiana and we were exploring them all and taking day trips up there with the young ladies and skinny dipping and all that stuff - the Tangipahoa River, the Amite River (both branches), the Tickfaw, the Bogue Chitto.

    Then the Skynyrd aircraft went down right smack in the middle of all that, and it cast a sort of pall over the whole area. People really curtailed their canoeing and so forth in that area - it was like the area became haunted or something.

    I think about this even just about every time I traverse the area going N-S on Interstate 55.
     
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    Guitarzan Poster Extraordinaire

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    Skynyrd catches a lot of crap for the redneck cachet that accompanies the band and its music, particularly Freebird. Despite that, there is no argument that the band was quite talented and quite prolific in its era with RVZ as lead singer. LS still sells a lot of units and merchandise based on the music of the RVZ era, and is a big time band and business in the conspectus of rock music and the music industry.

    Like others, I can live without the stuff from the post RVZ era.
     
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    Slept a lot. Tortured each other. And as soon as I got a motorcycle I said bye bye to the bus.:cool:

    (At least when the sun was out. Otherwise drove in friends cars.)
     
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    About 20 miles down the road from where I live. I was too young back then and didn't even know who Skynyrd was.
     
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    So very sad. Unlike some of my playing friends I was a big fan of the group. I loved their music. It had so much energy and life. It is a sad thing to remember.
     
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    Love Skynyrd. Was amused when Cronkite pronounced the name wrong.

    So sad for the victims of the crash. A tragic day.
     
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    Ronnie was the best. :cry:
     
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    Damn,
    Now I know why I felt "Off" all day today after seeing the date on my phone at work. :(
     
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    My first concert was Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1976 at The Liberty Bowl Stadium in Memphis Tennessee. I was 15 and we traveled from Little Rock in a 1972 Pontiac Grand Prix with 2 tickets and there was 4 of us so we bought tickets from scalpers for $12 each. It was Blue Oyster Cult, The Outlaws, Lynyrd Skynyrd and ZZ Top. This was the 4th of July Bicentennial Jam/ ZZ Top Wide World Tour. I’ll never forget it. I can see and here it now. Skynyrd owned that show and ZZ knew it but they were great too but Skynyrd was hot like nobody’s business back in those days.
     
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    Steve Gains was a monster for sure you can here that Strat tone heavy in That Smell.
     
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    I still won't get in an airplane.
     
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    I saw them back in 1990 on the first reunion tour and remember thinking it was sad to not have Steve and Ronnie, but now it is amazing to think of all the people who were there that are now gone.

    (Allen Collins was there but in a wheelchair. He could not play but came out and talked about drunk driving as part of his legal arrangement)

    I love Skynyrd. Steve Gaines especially.

    But I think Billy Powell might have been the one that made them stand out.
     
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    I think Ronnie's younger brother, Johnny, does a very good job "filling-in" for his late brother. It's too bad Artimus Pyle isn't drumming in this concert.


     
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    Check this video out about the aftermath of the plane crash, and all of the fighting between band members that has continued throughout the years:



    It seems like the interviewer helps to keep the wedges between the surviving members and family?
     
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