LSR Roller Nut

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  1. mugen74

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    Yay or nay? Why and why not? I have a Sterling Albert Lee that could use a new nut. Considering the LSR.

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    Go for it.
     
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    I have no idea. I’ve never used a roller nut. Now I’m curious
     
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    Had an Ibanez Roadstar with one. Really liked it. But, when I tried to sell it, that drove the price down. Still, I was surprised at how much i liked it. No issues whatsoever with it.
     
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    I like em, I’d make sure you know how to install it or have a professional install it especially on a nice instrument

    The LSR works as advertised
     
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    I had a couple Strat Plus models over the years. I like the roller nut functionality, but not the non traditional look.
    Made me think my guitar had been to the orthodontist.
     
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    I had one on a strat. It worked fine but I never liked the look of it.
     
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    I have no issue with the look and am not concerned about driving the value down. My main concern is having a better nut and better playing instrument. Seems everyone that has had one liked the functionality of it. I shall have one installed at some point and get back to you. Thanks.

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    Never heard of an LSR nut driving the price of a guitar down. It's a great upgrade.
     
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    I've always wanted to try one [a roller nut]. However, so far I haven't because:

    Pros: looks cool, works well, designed to work with whammy arms, etc.

    Cons: Difficult and challenging to reverse engineer, expensive compared to a traditional nut (bone or synthetic), the suggested impact on resale value (not one I'd come across).

    TBH, I had to Google 'Sterling Albert Lee' and was surprised to discover what it is. Really cool.

    One of these guitars with a properly fitted roller nut would be cool, complement the whammy bar and, IMHO, not effect the resale value.

    The only issue could be the cost. For me a new nut is the 'cost' of my own time as I have quality bone nut blanks ready to cut and install.

    A quick search for LSR roller nuts is coming back with $30 - 50, which is a BIG difference.

    Good luck and let us know what you decide. :)
     

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    It's lovely.
     
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    If no trem, then no need. Does the LSR retrofit directly into the original nut slot, or is widening/deepening necessary ?
     
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    The nut slot needs widening based on these instructions:

    http://www.axesrus.com/images/lsrfit.pdf
     
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    Didn't now that the AL comes with a trem. I never saw Albert Lee play a guitar with a trem, but "that's neither here nor there". It would be a good upgrade if the LSR string spacing is the same as the stock nut. You should have as close to a perfectly straight string-line from bridge saddle to string post as possible so that there is no side-pressure from the strings as they cross over their rollers.

    Personally, I would install locking tuners on that guitar before retrofitting an LSR nut, and make sure that the original nut slots are not binding and well lubed.
     
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    The guitar needs a new nut either way. The high E is basically on the edge of the fretboard. I have no issue with having someone widening the the area for the LSR. I only see it as an improvement. I was mostly wondering what effect if any there would be on the sound.

    jh

    Also, I hope that you are actually Phil Collen
     
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    I had a Strat plus a few years ago, and loved the look and operation of the LSR nut. My only concern would be that it was not an easily reversible change, and given the conservative approach of many guitarists might prove difficult to move on when the time came.
     
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    ...and the drama continues. :lol:
     
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    But... are you gettin’ it?


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    I own a CP Jaguar with one. The previous owner installed a LSR and it works, I like it. It was installed correctly and works almost perfectly. There is some pinging on the high E when working the trem. The ping tells me it’s not that much better than a standard, well cut Fender style bone nut. If there was angle/splay to the strings instead of having a straight string path, it might be an improvement. I used some Tri-flow on the LSR and the ping is gone for the most part.

    Either way, I’d never seek it out on my own as a mod: too fidgety, having to cut back the slot, install the two screws, and using shims to elevate it properly. I don’t mind the looks, and I’m neither hot or cold about it.
     
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    Any effect on the sound/tone of the strings would only occur when playing a string unfretted (open). Once a string is fretted, the nut is out of the picture tone-wise.
     
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