Low watt speakers - HRD

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  1. TubeBlues

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    I play a Hot Rod Deluxe at home because I love it, but at low volumes.
    I use a volume pedal in the effects loop, but I've been told the speaker is not getting enough power to sound right.

    I get that I couldn't crank the volume, but would a 5 watts speaker help also?
     
  2. corliss1

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    You're sending the same amount of power to a speaker no matter what the speaker rating is. What you want to look for is inefficient speakers, which is the dB rating.
     
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    I think you've been slightly misled... My opinion, of course. But, I play many of my high wattage amps at low volumes, and they sound great.

    My question to you is, how do you like your tone? If you like it, then 'case closed'.
     
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    Or that - if you like the sound, then the quest is over :D
     
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    IMO a 10 inch speaker sounds better than a 12 at lower volumes, but it still needs some power to sound good.
    For years and years I had found some compromises that sounded ok at home for lower volumes (great OD pedals, attenuators, good PPI master volumes, etc.), then I tried the little THR-5 and it was a revelation: none of my bigger amps sounds as good at bedroom volume, and I suspect it has something to do with the thr-5 dual mini speakers setup.
     
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    You would probably toast a 5 watt speaker withing 5 minutes if you weren't very careful. What tubes are in the amp? What speaker is it? THe stock one? Give thought to a separate cabinet that could be used for other tasks too. Tasks like using a 1-5 watt head to also power it. Perhaps a good attenuater?
     
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    Maybe you have an internal issue with your amp(Tube, circuit board or component). I have a 15watt tube amp and it's load enough to be heard in my neighbor across the street's house when I have it cranked. Silvertone 1482
     
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    He's not saying it's not loud enough. He's saying that he was informed the speaker won't "sound right" at the volumes he's using it at, which I don't believe to be true.

    Are you going to get the air moving like you would with it cranked? Of course not, but it can still sound just fine at low volumes. Tons of people love using their Twin as a bedroom amp.
     
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    5W would be too low


    A 25 W speaker in that application is reasonable



    Will it be an improvement to you?



    It’s not often done.


    Many people alternate speakers



    The attributes are


    Diameter
    Voice coil diameter
    Power handling
    Efficiency
    Magnet type and weight





    If I made the change I would stick with a 12 inch speaker in the HRD cab.



    Maybe C12R or P12R? / 12F100 or 12A100?




    Keep the box to keep the old speaker in.
     
  10. TubeBlues

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    Hmmmm.. I used to have a HRD years ago and got a version III this morning.
    I was worried it would't sound right, but it's just fine.
    I was worried for nothing it seems.

    Maybe I used to play in my mother's house 12 years ago, and not in my own basement, I can get it a little bit louder, which makes all the difference.
     
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