Loveable songs where the lyrics make no sense

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  1. ac15

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    Anyone who says someone's lyrics don't make sense because they "were on acid" or whatever, is giving them too much credit.

    As a songwriter who has written nonsensical (i.e., bad) lyrics before, I can tell you it's pure laziness.

    It kind of goes like this: You have a song, but don't have lyrics. But you're a singer, you need to sing something, the melody is good, the vocal is strong, and you have a deadline to finish the song.

    So you dash something off quickly, maybe with the intention of replacing those "temporary" "scratch" lyrics with something good.

    But you never do. Because writing a good set of lyrics is friggin' hard, and most people aren't good at it.

    You also know that if the vocal and melody is good, many people won't care, and will still like the song.

    So your "scratch" lyrics become the actual lyrics (Su Su Sudio, anyone?)

    Before Dylan, no one would be able to get away with that kind of crap. Your song had to make sense, even if it was a standard "I love her, she loves me" type of lyric.

    On the flip side, there are guys like Roger Waters and others, who work hard to write great lyrics and consider it a priority.
     
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    Frank Zappa wrote many lovable songs...
     
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    That one is about sitting on the foor in the middle of the night (condition???) and looking up to the clock on the wall at the far end of the room and wondering if it was 25min. to 4 or 26min to 4.
     
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    Or is this the opposite? I like lyrics that aren't about pickup trucks.
     
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    Hahaha I never check my misinformation before posting anymore because that's what forums are for!

    Now I need to find the other correction and combine the two, though they may simply cancel out since it seems neither kid was the source of the song title.

    Can the unborn provide retroactive fabricated material as false evidence?

    Reading through this thread and gathering up all the speculations, interpretations, machinations without investigations, will never stifle our imaginations!

    OTOH maybe Julian really did show papa Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    I'll admit that as a kid there were drugs left round the house I probably shouldn't have gotten my hands on...
     
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    Since you guys mentioned Bob Dylan I just couldn't help myself. I'm about 60% of the way to memorizing this.

     
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    Load up on guns, bring your friends
    It's fun to lose and to pretend
    She's over-bored and self-assured
    Oh no, I know a dirty word
     
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    Wop wa beeb E bob a lube a wop, oh o yeah. Ahhh, ahhh, ahh!
     
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    do wa diddy diddy dum diddy do/
     
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    Many lyrics are impressionistic ventures with Mary Jane & friends...taken liberally, mistaken literally
     
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    Well, what do you mean by "sense"?
    Poetry is sometimes.....awkward and forces you to think about. It's not a "how-to"-manual.

    One of my alltime favorite songs is "Once In A Lifetime" by Talking Heads - and those lyrics are don't tell a straight story, but I can still remember it word by word.

    Pretty much the same as with chords, why bother with major, minor, septimes etc. why not stick to power-chords?
    Because it's boring after a while.
     
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    Arthur Lee's Love produced a lot of nonsense-lyric songs. He was a bit of a trippy hippie.

    (7 and 7 Is)
    When I was a boy I thought about the times I'd be a man
    I'd sit inside a bottle and pretend that I was in a can
    In my lonely room I'd sit my mind in an ice cream cone
    You can throw me if you wanna 'cause I'm a bone and I go
    Oop-ip-ip oop-ip-ip, yeah!

    If I don't start cryin' it's because that I have got no eyes
    My father's in the fireplace and my dog lies hypnotized
    Through a crack of light I was unable to find my way
    Trapped inside a night but I'm a day and I go
    Oop-ip-ip oop-ip-ip, yeah!

    Or this one (Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale)

    What is happening and how have you been
    Gotta go but I'll see you again
    And oh, the music is so loud
    And then I fade into the

    Crowds of people standing everywhere
    'Cross the street I'm at this laugh affair
    And here they always play my songs
    And me, I wonder if it's

    Wrong or right they come here just the same
    Telling everyone about their games
    And if you think it obsolete
    Then you go back across the street
    Yeah, street, hey hey

    When I leave now don't you weep for me
    I'll be back, just save a seat for me
    But if you just can't make the room
    Look up and see me on the

    Moon's a common scene around my town
    Here where everyone is painted brown
    And if we feel that's not the way
    Let's go paint everybody gray
    Yeah, gray, yeah
     
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    I love the songwriting by the Talking Heads, too. (Was it always Byrne?) Songs that tell a simple, literal story from beginning to end are okay, but I like "lyrical".

    For example, we all know some slippery people. (No names! Keep the thread unlocked.)

     
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    I started an argument once by claiming the group America wrote a bunch of nonsense lyrics. How dare you, I was accused? Don't "Alligator lizards in the air" have a special meaning for yoU?
     
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    aligator lizards in the air = mosquitos
     
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    gotta love some of Beck's lyrical nonsense, too:

    "The sales climb high through the garbage pail sky,
    Like a giant dildo crushing the sun"
     
  18. JuneauMike

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    That reminds me; REM. It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine).

    "Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom!"

    Boom, indeed...Boom.
     
  19. telemnemonics

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    My In Laws are poets and travel around teaching in various institutions as well as running teaching workshops with resident poets in Ireland (where poetry is more highly respected by society).

    FIL has one T shirt that he seems to always wear and may be buried in if he has a choice. My wife buys him a new one or two every Christmas, same shirt, same words.

    It's the Talking Heads:

    Stop Making Sense.

    This thread seems based on the idea that not making sense doesn't make sense in the poetic sensibility.

    That's some heavy s**t!
     
  20. JuneauMike

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    That's Dadaism, which in itself is kinda loveable and makes no sense. LOL.
     
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